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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Last I checked West Virginia was an Obama state, doesn't look to be the case. Wonder where
    the disconnect is between MTAtech and the people of W. Va.
    Hawaiians, D.C. Residents Most Approving of Obama in 2013
    That's too limiting a disconnect.
    There's something disturbing about the willingness to post the garbage he's been trying to pass off as fact.
    Folks like that are either too deep in the tank to care about the truth or too deep in the tank that they believe it.
    The one yesterday about giving Obama credit for oil exploration despite his efforts to kill it spoke volumes.

    I think I'm done with him upstairs.

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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Well, I guess you should check again. West Virginia went for Romney. But what you are really saying is that policy for the entire nation should be dictated by which states will vote for a particular political party. Sorry, that's not sensible governance. It is in both the national and world's best interest to reduce emissions that coal produces more than any other fuel.
    West Va. have been a blue state which Obama lost because of his attacks on the coal industry. West Virginia is a large coal producing state. Guess that reality escapes you. The policy of this country should be based upon what is in the best interest of the country and a policy that creates actual full time private sector jobs. nothing Obama has implemented promotes private sector full time jobs. Hope you are getting paid well by the Obama Administration because much of the country isn't

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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Sorry, I am not your research assistant. If you are asserting that regulations added by the Obama Administration was causal to closing of coal-fired electric plants, the onus is upon you, not me, to prove it.

    That is your opinion, based solely on, um, your opinion. However, the articles that I linked said otherwise, namely, that competition from natural gas is causing a free-market decision against coal.


    Don't you get tired of being proven wrong?

    From the Wall Street Journal:

    I really have to shake my head at the distorted mind-set that paints solar as bad and coal as good.


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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    West Va. have been a blue state which Obama lost because of his attacks on the coal industry. West Virginia is a large coal producing state. Guess that reality escapes you. The policy of this country should be based upon what is in the best interest of the country and a policy that creates actual full time private sector jobs. nothing Obama has implemented promotes private sector full time jobs. Hope you are getting paid well by the Obama Administration because much of the country isn't
    Either you just make this stuff up as you go along or reality escapes YOU. Where do you get the notion that West Virginia is a blue state? West Virgina was won by Romney in 2012; McCain in 2008; Bush won it in 2004 and 2000. One has to go back to 1996 to see a Democratic win it in a presidential election. In other words, no Democratic Presidential candidate won West Virginia in 16 years. To assert that Obama lost it in 2012 due to "his attacks on the coal industry," is mere projection.
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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Either you just make this stuff up as you go along or reality escapes YOU. Where do you get the notion that West Virginia is a blue state? West Virgina was won by Romney in 2012; McCain in 2008; Bush won it in 2004 and 2000. One has to go back to 1996 to see a Democratic win it in a presidential election. In other words, no Democratic Presidential candidate won West Virginia in 16 years. To assert that Obama lost it in 2012 due to "his attacks on the coal industry," is mere projection.
    You are amazing, simply a liberal who cannot admit when wrong

    Joe Manchin and Jay Rockefeller, both Democrats, hold West Virginia's U.S. Senate seats.[3] One of three seats in the United States House of Representatives is occupied by Democrat Nick Rahall;[4] the other two are taken by Republicans David McKinley and Shelley Moore Capito. Democrats also maintain strong positions in the state legislature and most local and state offices. West Virginia also has a very strong tradition of union membership. While Democratic politicians hold most statewide offices and control both houses of the state legislature, Republicans have made major gains at the state and federal level in recent years.
    What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? I guess 25% support for Obama in a state with Two Democrat Senators and a Democrat State legislature is to be ignored?

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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are amazing, simply a liberal who cannot admit when wrong
    Let's recap:

    You claimed that Obama lost W. Virginia because of his policy against coal. I pointed out that no Democratic presidential candidate has won W. Virginia since Clinton. That's an indisputable fact. Then, faced with that indisputable fact, you act as if I was the one that was wrong.

    What is it about the conservative fantasy world that allows them to think they are correct when what they said is counter to actual facts and what you believe bears little resemblance to reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? I guess 25% support for Obama in a state with Two Democrat Senators and a Democrat State legislature is to be ignored?
    Obama got only 35.5% of the vote in W. Virginia in 2012, which emphasizes that it is a red state.
    United States presidential election in West Virginia, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Moreover, people win Senate seats for many reasons. Massachusetts elected Republican Scott Brown. That doesn't make Massachusetts a red state no more than two Senators makes WV a blue state. You already pointed out that two of the three House seats are held by Republicans.
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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are amazing, simply a liberal who cannot admit when wrong

    Joe Manchin and Jay Rockefeller, both Democrats, hold West Virginia's U.S. Senate seats.[3] One of three seats in the United States House of Representatives is occupied by Democrat Nick Rahall;[4] the other two are taken by Republicans David McKinley and Shelley Moore Capito. Democrats also maintain strong positions in the state legislature and most local and state offices. West Virginia also has a very strong tradition of union membership. While Democratic politicians hold most statewide offices and control both houses of the state legislature, Republicans have made major gains at the state and federal level in recent years.
    What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? I guess 25% support for Obama in a state with Two Democrat Senators and a Democrat State legislature is to be ignored?
    Picky picky

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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Let's recap:

    You claimed that Obama lost W. Virginia because of his policy against coal. I pointed out that no Democratic presidential candidate has won W. Virginia since Clinton. That's an indisputable fact. Then, faced with that indisputable fact, you act as if I was the one that was wrong.

    What is it about the conservative fantasy world that allows them to think they are correct when what they said is counter to actual facts and what you believe bears little resemblance to reality?
    No, I didn't say Obama lost W. Va. because of his attack on Coal, I said he had a 25% rating in a blue state unless of course you don't call a state with two Democrat Senators and a Democrat Legislature blue? Please post where I said Obama lost West Virginia?

    Look, nothing is going to change your mind. You are certainly someone who believes in Obamanomics. The majority in this country get it, you probably never will. I feel sorry for people like you, See, I can be liberal, feeling instead of thinking

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    Re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Picky picky
    Exactly, I guess having two Democrat Senators and Democrats holding most statewide offices including the state legislature make W. Va a red state

    I also recognized the strong tradition of union membership making this of course a Red State because we all know how much unions love the GOP
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