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American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

NIMBY said:
Would you care to answer it?
Why did the Chicken**** chickenhawk Cheney choose to fight the wrong war first--Iraq?
Oh--and your latest dodge is duly noted .
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The Iraq war began in 2003- two years after the Afghanistan war began.

You really were in kindergarten in 2001, weren't you?

And there is no sign that you know more now than you did then. Therefore it's time to tune you out- informed conversation with you is not possible. Bye Byyyyeeee.
 
tres borrachos said:
Is that the only option on the table?
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Of course not, but why would you immediately react until you know what you are reacting too. The original post I quoted was talking about how we aren't doing anything, well the attack JUST happened then. We can't say we aren't doing nothing as we all aren't privy to the briefings going on about the situation.
 
Blue_State said:
You were quoted accurately for your attempt. Sad you can take an event like that to move your agenda. Then you get called on it, and you try to retract. Sad.
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What's sadder is your inability to understand simple words.
 
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poweRob said:
Wow... you write this tripe and throwing personal insults while going after someone else's maturity level?

interesting.
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If you take a good look at the guy’s posts you will see for yourself that his information rating really is kindergarten-level. About the same as yours, in fact.



(post 93):
poweRob said:
Seems important to you. I suggest you pick up ****ing rifle and get your ass over there unless of course you are just e-pissed and showing off your e-toughness and can't actually walk your talk.
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We have several 100k highly trained professional volunteers to take care of what needs to be taken care of.

If we had left about 20K in Iraq then ISIS would not have taken over about half the country. If we keep about 20k in Afghanistan then Taliban is not going to regain power.



(post 94):
poweRob said:
Uh... no.

Why Was the Biggest Protest in World History Ignored?
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See post #128.
 
CRUE CAB said:
So? Its true. Peel back the onion and that is all you liberals do. Blame Bush and cry racist. Since 2008 every death in Iraq and Afghanistan is squarely on Obama's shoulders.
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So if you start a brush fire to control some nuisance bushes and weeds but due to crappy preplanning and piss poor management the fires roar out of control... now you do your best to manage that fire but it is still on going when your shift ends.

So you think the relief crew gets the blame for the continuing losses because the shift whistle blew?

But CONs play the game as well... I recall several CONs who always point to the LIBs who start wars...

What's sauce to a goose...
 
notquiteright said:
So if you start a brush fire to control some nuisance bushes and weeds but due to crappy preplanning and piss poor management the fires roar out of control... now you do your best to manage that fire but it is still on going when your shift ends.

So you think the relief crew gets the blame for the continuing losses because the shift whistle blew?

But CONs play the game as well... I recall several CONs who always point to the LIBs who start wars...

What's sauce to a goose...
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Clearly you don't remember Obama's promises of being out of both countries.
 
Grand Mal said:
What's sadder is your inability to understand simple words.
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You get that it was a military school with military targets. You are the one who isolated the word school for the emotional reaction. Own up to it.

Or there is of course the chance you didn't understand it was a military installation. Did you not understand it was a military installation?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Its a no win situation. If being brutal in response to this worked, then the Soviets would have easily won in Afghanistan back in the 80s. We just need to say to hell with it and get out.
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Totally agree man. I'm tired of trying to help people that don't want to be helped. If the Afghani people don't want freedom, then we cannot force it down their throats. They obviously don't want it bad enough to stand up to the Taliban and various other "organizations" so why should we sacrifice our best and brightest?
 
notquiteright said:
So if you start a brush fire to control some nuisance bushes and weeds but due to crappy preplanning and piss poor management the fires roar out of control... now you do your best to manage that fire but it is still on going when your shift ends.

So you think the relief crew gets the blame for the continuing losses because the shift whistle blew?

But CONs play the game as well... I recall several CONs who always point to the LIBs who start wars...

What's sauce to a goose...
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Pres Obama made this his war when he sent a 2007 Iraq style surge into Afghanistan. Had he started a draw down instead of a plus up, you would have a point.
 
USViking said:
I guess I ought to keep repeating that I am in this thread limiting the case to Afghanistan.

There was 80% support for military action there in 2001:

Eight of 10 Americans Support Ground War in Afghanistan

80% counts as "full".
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No it does NOT, too bad it's too late for you to edit that. Bush had a 22% approval rating when he left office. Does that mean he had no approval?


The poll found that 57 percent now say going to war in Afghanistan after the 2001 terror attacks was probably the "wrong thing to do." And 53 percent say the pace of the planned withdrawal is too slow, 34 percent said the pace was just about right and 10 percent said it was too fast. All combat troops are scheduled to leave by the end of 2014.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/afghanistan-poll-obama_n_4465224.html
 
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USViking said:
(post 92):

If you take a good look at the guy’s posts you will see for yourself that his information rating really is kindergarten-level. About the same as yours, in fact.



(post 93):

We have several 100k highly trained professional volunteers to take care of what needs to be taken care of.

If we had left about 20K in Iraq then ISIS would not have taken over about half the country. If we keep about 20k in Afghanistan then Taliban is not going to regain power.



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See post #128.
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I agree with Rob. I think you should pick a rifle up and make it 100,001 in Afghanistan. I, for one, am tired of individuals such as yourself volunteering people such as me to do your democracy bidding. You want a free Afghanistan? Strap on some body armor, go on over, and try it out. You will realize very quickly that the Afghan people have no delusions of grandeur. All they want is to raise poppy crops, have their very own mud hut, and be left alone.
 
MarineTpartier said:
I agree with Rob. I think you should pick a rifle up and make it 100,001 in Afghanistan. I, for one, am tired of individuals such as yourself volunteering people such as me to do your democracy bidding. You want a free Afghanistan? Strap on some body armor, go on over, and try it out. You will realize very quickly that the Afghan people have no delusions of grandeur. All they want is to raise poppy crops, have their very own mud hut, and be left alone.
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how many times can we raise the sword before the sword breaks?
 
MarineTpartier said:
I agree with Rob. I think you should pick a rifle up and make it 100,001 in Afghanistan. I, for one, am tired of individuals such as yourself volunteering people such as me to do your democracy bidding. You want a free Afghanistan? Strap on some body armor, go on over, and try it out. You will realize very quickly that the Afghan people have no delusions of grandeur. All they want is to raise poppy crops, have their very own mud hut, and be left alone.
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Glad to see you have made that conclusion, I hope more vets join you!
 
shrubnose said:
The man died in Vietnam during the time that the USA was at war there.

That's a fact.

Deal with it. :roll:
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Spin it however you want, the general wasn't KIA. YOU deal with.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Pres Obama made this his war when he sent a 2007 Iraq style surge into Afghanistan. Had he started a draw down instead of a plus up, you would have a point.
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Obama followed Bush's timetable and pulled out of Iraq. The result was a mess, as predicted. Obama's fault. He's a flaming liberal peacenik who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Obama hasn't pulled out of Afganistan. Clearly, he's a raging war hawk determined to get us into further conflicts around the world.

It's really tough to be a liberal peacenik warhawk determined to pull out our troops and continue wars indefinitely.
 
Montecresto said:
No it does NOT, too bad it's too late for you to edit that.
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"Full" may mean "abundant", so no need to edit it.

Definition of "Full"

BTW one of my college majors was English Lit, and you are unlikely ever to catch me in a usage error. (Typos are another story, alas)



Montecresto said:
Bush had a 22% approval rating when he left office. Does that mean he had no approval?
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"No" may mean "hardly any", so yes it could mean that.

Definition of "No"



Montecresto said:
The poll found that 57 percent now say going to war in Afghanistan after the 2001 terror attacks was probably the "wrong thing to do." And 53 percent say the pace of the planned withdrawal is too slow, 34 percent said the pace was just about right and 10 percent said it was too fast. All combat troops are scheduled to leave by the end of 2014.

Majority Of Americans Want Obama To Pull Troops Faster From Afghanistan: AP Poll
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I don't know what I have said that you intend to address here.

What you do address is the fact that we have an inadequate sense of commitment- what I think I called "staying power".
 
USViking said:
"Full" may mean "abundant", so no need to edit it.

Definition of "Full"

BTW one of my college majors was English Lit, and you are unlikely ever to catch me in a usage error. (Typos are another story, alas)




"No" may mean "hardly any", so yes it could mean that.

Definition of "No"




I don't know what I have said that you intend to address here.

What you do address is the fact that we have an inadequate sense of commitment- what I think I called "staying power".
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The twenty percent of us that opposed the invasion of Afghanistan, disagree with you that our voices of opposition were irrelevant, minority position sure, but there was NOT "full" American support for Afghanistan. And now there are an additional 37% that think in retrospect it was wrong. I can't help that they were intimidated and duped by the passive aggressive Bush Administration. Now, nearly 6 in 10 Americans realize the folly of A-Stan as well.
 
MarineTpartier said:
I agree with Rob. I think you should pick a rifle up and make it 100,001 in Afghanistan. I, for one, am tired of individuals such as yourself volunteering people such as me to do your democracy bidding. You want a free Afghanistan? Strap on some body armor, go on over, and try it out. You will realize very quickly that the Afghan people have no delusions of grandeur. All they want is to raise poppy crops, have their very own mud hut, and be left alone.
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As long as there is a USMC then its job will be to perform some form of "Democracy bidding". If you didn't know that when you signed up then it's your own damn fault.

If I was in power here you would be over there, now, in Afghanistan, doing the kind of work you supposedly volunteered for.

You do know that the the 9/11 plot was hatched and planned by Muslim radicals based in Afghanistan and hosted by the Taliban government, don't you? Or were you too busy keeping up with your homework to pay attention to the news back then? (Haha- homework? you?)

The short, sweet and simple point to staying in Afghanistan is above all else to avoid giving the place back to the same nightcreatures who had attacked us, and who we removed from power in 2001.
 
Montecresto said:
The twenty percent of us that opposed the invasion of Afghanistan, disagree with you that our voices of opposition were irrelevant, minority position sure, but there was NOT "full" American support for Afghanistan.
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Previously addressed.



Montecresto said:
And now there are an additional 37% that think in retrospect it was wrong... Now, nearly 6 in 10 Americans realize the folly of A-Stan as well
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They should exhibit more staying power.



Montecresto said:
I can't help that they were intimidated and duped by the passive aggressive Bush Administration...
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Ridiculous. I tired of your babble and will not have anything else to say unless you surprise us by posting something worth replying to.
 
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