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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The Obama White House will have no problem living with it.

    The Obama White House will just call it violence in the work place.

    The Obama White will probably declare Camp Qargha as a gun free zone.
    Yeah, I bet that's what will happen.

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Were any members of the Kennedy family in cahoots with Hitler? Someone named, "Joe", perhaps?

    Any veteran worth his salt sees Obama for the piece-a-**** he really is.
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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    There you go, it was a suicide mission. He knew that there was no way in hell he was going to walk out of there.

    Having waves of marching marines is not going to discourage these types, if any thing it makes them drool with a larger target.


    The suicide killer will always be a thorn in our side no matter abroad or homeland.
    Then find a way to deny him death?
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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post


    Yes it was...


    'After the Great Eastern Crisis broke out and the Russians sent an uninvited diplomatic mission to Kabul in 1878, Britain demanded that the ruler of Afghanistan, Sher Ali, accept a British diplomatic mission. The mission was turned back, and in retaliation a force of 40,000 men was sent across the border, launching the Second Anglo-Afghan War. The war's conclusion left Abdur Rahman Khan on the throne, and he agreed to let the British control Afghanistan's foreign affairs, while he consolidated his position on the throne. He managed to suppress internal rebellions with ruthless efficiency and brought much of the country under central control.

    In 1884, Russian expansionism brought about another crisis the Panjdeh Incident when they seized the oasis of Merv. The Russians claimed all of the former ruler's territory and fought with Afghan troops over the oasis of Panjdeh. On the brink of war between the two great powers, the British decided to accept the Russian possession of territory north of the Amu Darya as a fait accompli.

    Without any Afghan say in the matter, between 1885 and 1888 the Joint Anglo-Russian Boundary Commission agreed the Russians would relinquish the farthest territory captured in their advance, but retain Panjdeh. The agreement delineated a permanent northern Afghan frontier at the Amu Darya, with the loss of a large amount of territory, especially around Panjdeh.'


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    'Signed on August 31, 1907, in St. Petersburg, Russia, the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907 brought shaky British-Russian relations to the forefront by solidifying boundaries that identified respective control in Persia, Afghanistan, and Tibet.'

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    'The Russians accepted that the politics of Afghanistan were solely under British control as long as the British guaranteed not to change the regime.'

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    'The Durand Line (Pashto: د ډیورنډ کرښه‎) refers to the 2,640 kilometers (1,640 mi) long porous border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. It was established after an 1893 agreement between Sir Mortimer Durand of British India and Afghan Amir Abdur Rahman Khan for fixing the limit of their respective spheres of influence as well as improving diplomatic relations and trade. It is named after Sir Mortimer Durand, K.C.I.E., a British diplomat and civil servant of colonial British India. Afghanistan was considered by the British as an independent princely state at the time, although the British controlled its foreign affairs and diplomatic relations.

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    So, the northern border was determined by a British-Russian agreement without even consulting the Afghan people. While the Eastern border was decided by the British and an Afghan leader who was in Britain's back pocket.

    And you say 'Afghanistan was not formed by 'colonial masters''.

    Suuuuuuure it wasn't.


    As for Afghanistan being a joke as one country:

    'the main northern ethnic groups, Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara, who together account for about 60 percent of the population, in order to drive the Taleban from power in 2001. But the Taleban were and still are the major political vehicle for the Pashtuns, who are about 40 percent of the population.'

    Gwynne Dyer: Afghanistan an unwinnable war - StumbleUpon


    America is trying to train a united Afghan army and they are supporting a corrupt central government. They are DEFINITELY trying to keep Afghanistan together.


    Afghanistan is a collection of tribes/ethnic groups that were pushed into the present boundaries mostly by colonial powers. The people were forced into it and were never given a say in the matter.

    It is now time for the West to butt out what is none of their business and let the Afghani's decide their own fate.


    You do not agree - fine.

    If you want to ignore the obvious and history...go ahead.



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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy - ABC News



    Very serious, I hope the response to this from the US is a military one. We can't allow this.
    Yeah man, we should turn Afghanistan into sand over this one. oh, wait....

    My question is why are high ranking officers even near Afghan forces? this has happened before, we're not learning any lessons of trusting those we can't trust.

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's true; however,
    I don't know if this death would technically be attributed to "enemy action."





    I'm inclined to doubt that the guy who killed him was a friend of the USA.

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    BS, its just a cover.



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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you understand what, "enemy action", means? General Hochmuth died when his aircraft exploded, in flight. Witnesses say they didn't observe enemy fire when the general's aircraft exploded.


    So, yes Obama is the first president to have general KIA, since WW2. KIA means, "killed in action". I believe General Simon Boliver Buckner, Jr. was the last general KIA.



    General Hochmuth died in the Vietnam War zone, if you want to look up his family and tell them that he didn't die in action, get after it.

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
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    I'm inclined to doubt that the guy who killed him was a friend of the USA.
    Obviously not; I'm simply referring to Pentagon classification.
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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Think the military will categorize this shooting as "workplace violence?"
    Most of the posters in this thread would.
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