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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, I'm talking common sense for all but those who personally have something to gain by interfering in everyone else's business. For the umpteenth time, we can provide aid, help with starvation, homelessness, aids, farming advancements, water quality, trade and other business, joint projects that advance civilizations, encourage and enrich everyone. Tourism, disaster relief and all the other humanitarian adventures too numerous to list. But wishing to end US imperialism isn't isolationism, that's just a dirty four letter word you warmongers like to label peaceful people with.
    put simply... using methods of construction not destruction.
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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    How old were you in 2001?

    Kindergarten age?

    That would be about right considering the content of your post.

    We went into Afghanistan for no other reason than that it was providing a base and refuge for the Osama Bin laden-Al Qaeda-Night Creatures who carried out the 9/11 attack.

    It was a just war if there ever was one.

    We have stayed there since only to ensure that the Night Creature host does not take over again.

    If isolationist nitwits, such as you, have their way then the Night Creatures probably will return, and more of our people will die than if we stay as long as we need to.
    Wow... you write this tripe and throwing personal insults while going after someone else's maturity level?

    interesting.
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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    They will not have been killed in vain if we have the guts to stand fast. Hopefully Iraq has taught us something in that regard.
    Seems important to you. I suggest you pick up ****ing rifle and get your ass over there unless of course you are just e-pissed and showing off your e-toughness and can't actually walk your talk.
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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    You seem to be missing something.

    It was a united American government, with the full support of a united American people that took us in.
    Uh... no.

    Why Was the Biggest Protest in World History Ignored?
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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    What country?

    Imo, Afghanistan is not a country...it never was. It is a group of peoples that were forced to band together as a country (often against their will) by their colonial masters.

    The west is trying to force Afghanis to stay formed as a country that makes no sense.

    America and the West should leave the Afghanis alone to decide where they want their final borders to be...because I guarantee you that 100 years from now that there is virtually no chance Afghanistan will be as it is now...not even close. It will (imo) end up like Iraq is going (and should be allowed to go), formed into historic and logical smaller countries.

    Why are so many people (I am not speaking of you here) so obsessed by keeping things as they were without considering that maybe some things are NOT better off as they traditionally have been. Tradition is fine...but only if it is for a logical reason. Tradition strictly for traditions sake is silly.

    The brave western troops died (and are dying) to mostly preserve a tradition (Afghanistan as it is) whose only reason for continuance is tradition...not logical (imo).

    I think Obama should just leave them alone and stop throwing honorable lives and money America does not have on a hopeless cause that is 7,000 miles from home.
    What are you talking about? Afghanistan was not formed by 'colonial masters' it was pulled together by indigenous forces. No one is trying to 'force' Afghanistan to stay together just like no one is trying to tear it apart. It isn't like the Taliban has been a secessionist movement. I think you are deeply confused.

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You can't democratize the ME.
    It isn't in the Middle East and why couldn't you? Most people in the region want democracy. Do you think they are racially incapable of embracing it?

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It isn't in the Middle East and why couldn't you? Most people in the region want democracy. Do you think they are racially incapable of embracing it?
    Well no, it's not "thee" Middle East. And no I don't think it's a racial problem. I think it's a US control problem. Why do we not force democracy on Saudi Arabia?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well no, it's not "thee" Middle East. And no I don't think it's a racial problem. I think it's a US control problem.
    You can't have democracy in the Middle East... because of US control? Funny. I thought it was a brutal dictator problem.

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    You can't have democracy in the Middle East... because of US control? Funny. I thought it was a brutal dictator problem.
    I never said that. The ME region is one place on earth that dictators are the preferred for stability short of democracy. Though the US has been removing the strong men giving rise to sectarian violence and power to the militant Islamists that we have supported for decades now.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American General Killed in Shooting at Afghan Military Academy

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I never said that. The ME region is one place on earth that dictators are the preferred for stability short of democracy. Though the US has been removing the strong men giving rise to sectarian violence and power to the militant Islamists that we have supported for decades now.
    Preferred by whom? The people in Syria and Egypt desired democracy, the people in Iran desire true democracy, despite the horrendous bloodshed brought about by militant Islamists democracy remains the favored form of government there, Palestinians have experience with and desire a democratic form of government, I could go on and on. The argument that these people need to be kept in line by a military dictator is colonialist and imperialist propaganda.

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