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Ohio's 4th largest city has no drinking water

rocket88 said:
They didn't "produce" the water. They put it in a bottle. Unless they've come up with a way to combine 2 hydrogens and 1 oxygen in a lab at such a price that it's profitable. ("You didn't make that" - which in this case is true)

Regardless, getting a drink of water should be a basic human right. Not a privilege you pay for.
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HAhahahahahahaha.

Oh wait, you are serious aren't you? You should understand that the planet does not care one way or the other if you die from lack of water or by contaminated water. Out in nature, away from the comfort of a government to wipe your ass, clean water is your own responsibility. Failure can result in rapid weight loss or even death. There is nothing that says these people, who live in an area where this has happened before can not provide themselves a store of safe water.
 
Paxaeon said:
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"TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — Long lines formed at water distribution centers and store shelves were quickly emptied of bottled water after Ohio's fourth-largest city told residents not to drink from its water supply that was fouled by toxins possibly from algae on Lake Erie.

The warning effectively cut off the water supply to 400,000 people in Toledo, most of its suburbs and a few areas in southeastern Michigan.

Worried residents told not to drink, brush their teeth or wash dishes with the water emptied store shelves and waited hours for deliveries of bottled water from across Ohio as the governor declared a state of emergency". - Source - Screen Shot ​
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This is causing other Great Lake states to start retesting their water.
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Are people seriously this helpless?

There is plenty of fresh water, just distill it or boil it........ Are people devolving or are they just lazy?

I think basic survival courses should be taught in schools.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Are people seriously this helpless?

There is plenty of fresh water, just distill it or boil it........ Are people devolving or are they just lazy?

I think basic survival courses should be taught in schools.
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boiling the contaminated water will not remove the toxin created by algae, it only makes it worse.
 
tech30528 said:
HAhahahahahahaha.

Oh wait, you are serious aren't you? You should understand that the planet does not care one way or the other if you die from lack of water or by contaminated water. Out in nature, away from the comfort of a government to wipe your ass, clean water is your own responsibility. Failure can result in rapid weight loss or even death. There is nothing that says these people, who live in an area where this has happened before can not provide themselves a store of safe water.
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"People who live in an area where this has happened before." Keep that in mind next time there's a wildfire in Texas and the Feds don't swoop in to save them....or do you only mean people in blue areas? (Vote Republican - make other people be self-reliant!)

Out in nature is not really the way people live anymore. If they did, the water in Lake Erie would probably be clean enough to drink. Of course, according to Crue Cab, it wouldn't be a problem getting the GOP to vote for infrastructure funding...
 
rocket88 said:
"People who live in an area where this has happened before." Keep that in mind next time there's a wildfire in Texas and the Feds don't swoop in to save them....or do you only mean people in blue areas? (Vote Republican - make other people be self-reliant!)

Out in nature is not really the way people live anymore. If they did, the water in Lake Erie would probably be clean enough to drink. Of course, according to Crue Cab, it wouldn't be a problem getting the GOP to vote for infrastructure funding...
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And maybe not. There would still be algae blooms and a whole host of other toxin releasing natural events.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
boiling the contaminated water will not remove the toxin created by algae, it only makes it worse.
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Of course it will - well at least in Ohio... You are right, there is some nasty algae, however you're no going to find any of that in the Midwest. Besides where you find that algae is in sulferic hotsprings.....

In the Midwest you can go to any lake, take some water, boil it and drink it and you will be fine. Obviously it won't taste the best, but it will be certainly safe to drink.

I'm an outdoors guy and I have had to drink my fair share of "nasty" water.

If you really had to you could distill your own pee..... What do you think the astronauts do?
 
CRUE CAB said:
Sewer systems in general, infrastructure. I bet 4 billion would go along way. Oh, wait. We need to spend 4 billion on the illegals.
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Let's not rule out wars of choice. We also can't ignore the lost income from all those tax breaks given to companies to ship jobs overseas.
 
clownboy said:
And maybe not. There would still be algae blooms and a whole host of other toxin releasing natural events.
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Well, I guess the jury's out on why there's an algae bloom.

Regardless, do you really want to be the party of "We don't care if the water's clean?" All politics aside, getting safe water from the tap should not be an outrageous "nanny state" thing. Basic consumer-driven idea - you pay the city for the water, you should get clean water.
 
reinoe said:
Let's not rule out wars of choice. We also can't ignore the lost income from all those tax breaks given to companies to ship jobs overseas.
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What is with you dems..... You talk about "tax breaks" as if you even know the tax code, not to mention the notion that you all adhere to which is that corporations owe you and the government money. As if the government and you are doing these businesses a favor......

It's almost you want to see these businesses fail, so you have something to cry about - like having no job....

If it wasn't for these corporations you would be living in a hut spearing fish.
 
rocket88 said:
So you couldn't think of any other way to blame this on Obama, so we drop in the Pipeline?
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The lack of clean drinking water should be a concern to the US President, and maybe the EPA. Where did that $7 trillion he spent since first becoming President go?
 
rocket88 said:
Well, I guess the jury's out on why there's an algae bloom.

Regardless, do you really want to be the party of "We don't care if the water's clean?" All politics aside, getting safe water from the tap should not be an outrageous "nanny state" thing. Basic consumer-driven idea - you pay the city for the water, you should get clean water.
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Oh agreed. I'm not arguing against water being a public utility or water safety. Just saying the "natural" environment is full of things toxic to the average human. All in all I think public water utilities do a great job of it here in the US. There are things I don't like, fluoridation for one. But I can avoid that if I so desire.
 
reinoe said:
Let's not rule out wars of choice. We also can't ignore the lost income from all those tax breaks given to companies to ship jobs overseas.
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There'll probably be more leaving if they can't get clean water.
 
Grant said:
The lack of clean drinking water should be a concern to the US President, and maybe the EPA. Where did that $7 trillion he spent since first becoming President go?
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IMO, it's cute when you pretend that you want the EPA to place more regulations on farmers so you can blame problems created by private businesses on the government
 
sangha said:
IMO, it's cute when you pretend that you want the EPA to place more regulations on farmers so you can blame problems created by private businesses on the government
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Never mentioned farmers.
 
Grant said:
Never mentioned farmers.
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Of course you didn't. You don't want to admit that it was private businesses and a lack of regulation that caused the problem.

You're focused on blaming Obama, who had nothing to do with the problem. That's why you're dishonestly pretending that you think this should be his concern
 
sangha said:
IMO, it's cute when you pretend that you want the EPA to place more regulations on farmers so you can blame problems created by private businesses on the government
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The EPA simply doesn't have the time nor the resources to save water supplies from farm run-off. Besides, we won't have time to worry about clean water when global warming happens. Why bother, right?
 
Paxaeon said:
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In Wisconsin at least, all the potable water is owned and controlled by "public utilities". The water isn't free per se, I mean you pay a water bill tax, but it is still very, very cheap here. I would be opposed to it becoming controlled by a for-profit business.
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Well as a libertarian this is one area I agree with that water in itself should be done by "public utilities" as you are still paying for a service and it's a lot easier to get rid of public utilities managers at the local level. What T. Boone Pickens was doing was down right criminal and politicians were cheering for that stupid plan.
 
sangha said:
IMO, it's cute when you pretend that you want the EPA to place more regulations on farmers so you can blame problems created by private businesses on the government
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What?

What do farmers have to do with this?

You amaze me sometimes. Now you're attacking farmers? Ha...

Apparently, you hate everyone and anything that produces anything other than progressive talking points.
 
austrianecon said:
Well as a libertarian this is one area I agree with that water in itself should be done by "public utilities" as you are still paying for a service and it's a lot easier to get rid of public utilities managers at the local
level. What T. Boone Pickens was doing was down right criminal and politicians were cheering for that stupid plan.
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That isn't even the government per se. That is all contracted out. Ironically there are places in Wisconsin where you can drink water out of a lake and it will be safe and will taste like bottled water. I suppose the UP in "Michigan" you can drink straight out of the lake(s).
 
What is the 4th largest city in Ohio anyway? Dayton?
 
sangha said:
Of course you didn't. You don't want to admit that it was private businesses and a lack of regulation that caused the problem.

You're focused on blaming Obama, who had nothing to do with the problem. That's why you're dishonestly pretending that you think this should be his concern
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Yup - one of the causes is farmer's fertilizer and chemical runoff from crops.
 
Grant said:
The lack of clean drinking water should be a concern to the US President, and maybe the EPA. Where did that $7 trillion he spent since first becoming President go?
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So your position is that the infrastructure was in perfect shape in 2008?
 
SMTA said:
Yup - one of the causes is farmer's fertilizer and chemical runoff from crops.
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There is the basic problem though that since this is Lake Erie water, the chances that some of the runoff comes from Canada are pretty good.
 
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