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    5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    A 5-year old girl visiting with friends in eastern Idaho died after being shot by another 5-year old in what police say is an accidental shooting.

    Read more here: 5-year-old Idaho girl dies after Idaho playmate gets gun | Fox News

    I have little doubt that the child who shot and killed her playmate didn't do it on purpose.

    But that doesn't change the result that we're looking at.

    Whoever owns that gun and failed to secure it needs to pay a heavy price for the death of this 5-year old which resulted from that carelessness.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    A 5-year old girl visiting with friends in eastern Idaho died after being shot by another 5-year old in what police say is an accidental shooting.

    Read more here: 5-year-old Idaho girl dies after Idaho playmate gets gun | Fox News

    I have little doubt that the child who shot and killed her playmate didn't do it on purpose.

    But that doesn't change the result that we're looking at.

    Whoever owns that gun and failed to secure it needs to pay a heavy price for the death of this 5-year old which resulted from that carelessness.
    Unfortunately there are no laws in Idaho for child safety purposes.

    States with Firearm Laws Designed to Protect Children | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

    Not that they would prevent such accidents. sad!
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    A 5-year old girl visiting with friends in eastern Idaho died after being shot by another 5-year old in what police say is an accidental shooting.

    Read more here: 5-year-old Idaho girl dies after Idaho playmate gets gun | Fox News

    I have little doubt that the child who shot and killed her playmate didn't do it on purpose.

    But that doesn't change the result that we're looking at.

    Whoever owns that gun and failed to secure it needs to pay a heavy price for the death of this 5-year old which resulted from that carelessness.
    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Unfortunately there are no laws in Idaho for child safety purposes.

    States with Firearm Laws Designed to Protect Children | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

    No that they would prevent such accidents.
    I know of instances where parents have been charged with Negligent Homicide, Child Endangerment, and other crimes for similar events.

    The following is an example of a state statute dealing with negligent homicide:

    "(a) (1) A person commits negligent homicide if he or she negligently causes the death of another person, not constituting murder or manslaughter, as a result of operating a vehicle, an aircraft, or a watercraft:

    (A) While intoxicated; or

    (B) If at that time there is an alcohol concentration of eight-hundredths (0.08) or more in the person’s breath or blood…as determined by a chemical test of the person’s blood, urine, breath, or other bodily substance.

    (2) A person who violates subdivision (a) (1) of this section is guilty of a Class C felony.

    (b) (1) A person who commits negligent homicide if he or she negligently causes the death of another person. A person who violates subdivision (b) (1) of this section is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor."
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Unfortunately there are no laws in Idaho for child safety purposes.

    States with Firearm Laws Designed to Protect Children | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

    Not that they would prevent such accidents. sad!



    If that gun had been securely stored, how could that accident happen?

    Explain that to us.

    That child is dead because a gun owned failed to securely store his gun.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If that gun had been securely stored, how could that accident happen?

    Explain that to us.

    That child is dead because a gun owned failed to securely store his gun.
    I agree the parents should have their firearms secured. However, asking how it could happen with a secured firearm is like asking how that child just managed to do what no adult seems to be able to, open that child-proof pill bottle, or drive the parent's car through the garage. Even at five I was getting into things my parents had well secured. My brother and sister never did, but I had a creative knack.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I agree the parents should have their firearms secured. However, asking how it could happen with a secured firearm is like asking how that child just managed to do what no adult seems to be able to, open that child-proof pill bottle, or drive the parent's car through the garage. Even at five I was getting into things my parents had well secured. My brother and sister never did, but I had a creative knack.
    This story got me thinking..

    Should people be charged when a Child finds its way into a neighbors swimming pool ?

    Because drowning accidents kills more kids than gun accidents

    I go back and forth on the issue. I had a neighbor sho lost their 3 year old in another neighbors pool about 15 years ago.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Should people be charged when a Child finds its way into a neighbors swimming pool ?

    Drowning accidents kills more kids than gun accidents
    Some are, some aren't. Depends upon if they were following all the regulations for securing the pool. If they were, they typically aren't charged. If they weren't, that's where charges are likely.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Some are, some aren't. Depends upon if they were following all the regulations for securing the pool. If they were, they typically aren't charged. If they weren't, that's where charges are likely.

    Yea it got me thinking.

    I had a neighbor who lost their 3 year old in another neighbors pool about 15 years ago.

    I remember it like it was yesterday.

    He wandered across the street and couldn't be found for over an hour.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If that gun had been securely stored, how could that accident happen?

    Explain that to us.

    That child is dead because a gun owned failed to securely store his gun.
    Hence why the best gun to own if one has children is a Glock with no round chambered. Problem is ... if one has a gun at home for safety against others, it's pretty useless if it's disassembled and/or locked up. So then what's the point in having it. First one has to educate one's children, not pretend the gun doesn't exist as many seem to, and secondly have a gun a child cannot, CANNOT, operate.

    A Glock has such a stiff slide, no child can chamber a round, yet an adult can do it in a second meaning it's ready for an adult to use if an immediate threat occurs. That's what I had and every year on their birthday's they were required to try to pull the slide (with no rounds or magazine in the Glock), and as soon as they could it was off to gun training and the shooting range.
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea it got me thinking.

    I had a neighbor who lost their 3 year old in another neighbors pool about 15 years ago.

    I remember it like it was yesterday.

    He wandered across the street and couldn't be found for over an hour.
    Some communities require locked fencing around the pool or similar, others don't. Depends on what the local laws for pools are. Oh, and those rules are only for permanent pools anyway, an above ground temp-type pool or even a hottub are usually not included. So it is up to parents to know WTF their children are.
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