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5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

A 5-year old girl visiting with friends in eastern Idaho died after being shot by another 5-year old in what police say is an accidental shooting.
So what?

WTF is your point?
 
If the parents didn't have the gun secured, they should be charged with negligent homicide.

And this is an excellent example of why all kids, even those in homes without guns, should be taught what to do if they find a gun.
 
I don't understand it. When My baby girl and now granddaughter are/were in my home my guns are/were locked up and child proofed. I just don't understand these parents today, just bad.
 
So what?

WTF is your point?




Stupid losers who don't secure their firearms shouldn't be surprised when anyone, even a very young child, uses them to kill people, for which they, the gun owner, will be held responsible.




Now do you get it?

If not, there's little hope for you.

Have the kind of day that people like you should have.
 
How does that not end with more coked-up sitters letting kids wander off?

I'm for legalization.

In your example, it's no different than alcohol or cigs. You dont allow on your property what you dont want on your property.

And just like anything else, you dont know if your sitter will drink or smoke or snort, so choose a sitter wisely.
 
What cap?

The one I busted in your nether regions...? never mind.

Your "WTF!" reaction to the post led me to wonder if you fit the descripton, but rejected it, hence my reference to the common sayin "If the cap fits, wear it." It was just a joke that obviously missed.
 
So you think our police are show offs and idiots?

Tell me, where is this gal going to hide her gun?

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Oh and thank you for reminding me, also wanna be cops.

Of course police weapons are not concealed, duh! Otherwise open carry is for idiots, show-offs, wannabe cops, and police. Three of the four shouldn't even have a gun.
 
I don't understand it. When My baby girl and now granddaughter are/were in my home my guns are/were locked up and child proofed. I just don't understand these parents today, just bad.

Just out of curiosity, if your weapons were all locked up tight, were/are you of the opinion that when children are around you're so much safer you didn't need a weapon? I guess if one has them for hunting or recreation, sure, but many of us have them for defense in which case doing as you suggest is stupid beyond measure, imo. Yes, they need to be safe, but locked up and child proofed is also entirely unusable should an issue arise. If one feels safe enough with grandchildren or children of any kind, that one can lock up their weapon, perhaps they didn't really need one to start with, that's all I can figure.
 
my father's best friend lost his grand son in the same way. The mother of the child was a coked out loser who got wasted and let the two year old wander off to a nearby neighbor's property which had a pool. The child fell in and died. The coker tried to sue the pool owner. the divorced father of the child (my friend) killed himself-it was the last straw in a troubled life.

no one intends such a tragedy. and since INTENT has no relevance-punishing people won't deter such behavior. If the thought of a child dying doesn't deter you, the thought of being fined or perhaps jailed isn't going to deter you either.


Yep, the Mother should bear some responsibility.....well all of the responsibility.

Sorry to hear about your friend.
 
Oh and thank you for reminding me, also wanna be cops.

Of course police weapons are not concealed, duh! Otherwise open carry is for idiots, show-offs, wannabe cops, and police. Three of the four shouldn't even have a gun.

Deciding who should have guns is not your call ( thank God )
 
Just out of curiosity, if your weapons were all locked up tight, were/are you of the opinion that when children are around you're so much safer you didn't need a weapon?

The one I need would be on my person.

I guess if one has them for hunting or recreation, sure, but many of us have them for defense in which case doing as you suggest is stupid beyond measure, imo.

The only thing stupid here is your bad assumption and lack of real world knowledge. Like your Glock slide nonsense. I have an old AMT DOA backup in .380 whose slide is harder to pull than any Glock. I have an XD 45 with a safety on the grip as well as the trigger. This is also just as hard to charge as any Glock. The make of the gun has little to do with it.

Yes, they need to be safe, but locked up and child proofed is also entirely unusable should an issue arise. If one feels safe enough with grandchildren or children of any kind, that one can lock up their weapon, perhaps they didn't really need one to start with, that's all I can figure.

Stupid assumption which leads to a highly flawed conclusion.
 
Oh and thank you for reminding me, also wanna be cops.

Of course police weapons are not concealed, duh! Otherwise open carry is for idiots, show-offs, wannabe cops, and police. Three of the four shouldn't even have a gun.

Open carry is more comfortable. Now why don't you call me a "wannabe?"
 
Open carry is more comfortable. Now why don't you call me a "wannabe?"

If the shoe fits. I'm a very slight woman, and no one ever saw my weapon. It's not that hard to accomplish.
 
If the shoe fits. I'm a very slight woman, and no one ever saw my weapon. It's not that hard to accomplish.

It does not fit. You are making a blanket statement about people who open carry. I am a rather large guy and conceal carry more often than not is very uncomfortable. If I could I would open carry. By the way I was a cop as well as a military man for many years.

Oh I live in Florida, which also makes conceal carry very uncomfortable most of the time because of the heat.
 
It does not fit. You are making a blanket statement about people who open carry. I am a rather large guy and conceal carry more often than not is very uncomfortable. If I could I would open carry. By the way I was a cop as well as a military man for many years.

I stand by my blanket statement. Anyone open carrying that isn't in LE does it to garner attention, that type of person shouldn't be carrying at all.
 
I stand by my blanket statement. Anyone open carrying that isn't in LE does it to garner attention, that type of person shouldn't be carrying at all.

So you have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks for being honest.
 
So you have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks for being honest.

Well, I just spoke with the LE who helped me choose my first firearm, train, and get CCW'd, and he agrees with me. So I guess not all LEs and ex-LEs, and wannabe LE's agree. Hence I'm not wrong, I just disagree with your inability to see reality.
 
Well, I just spoke with the LE who helped me choose my first firearm, train, and get CCW'd, and he agrees with me.

Trying to play the anecdotal someone just told me card means nothing here as you have shown I can't trust what you say.

So I guess not all LEs and ex-LEs, and wannabe LE's agree. Hence I'm not wrong, I just disagree with your inability to see reality.

Blanket statements are always wrong. Just like your argument or lack thereof is here.
 
Trying to play the anecdotal someone just told me card means nothing here as you have shown I can't trust what you say.



Blanket statements are always wrong. Just like your argument or lack thereof is here.

Well the truth is the truth. Not only did he not agree with you, he points out the risk open carriers take with having legitimate LEs take aim at them because they'd have no idea if you were a good guy or a bad guy, the only thing they know is that you're an "arrogant f'. And yes, that was his quote.
 
Well the truth is the truth. Not only did he not agree with you, he points out the risk open carriers take with having legitimate LEs take aim at them because they'd have no idea if you were a good guy or a bad guy, the only thing they know is that you're an "arrogant f'. And yes, that was his quote.

Again with the someone who no one knows expert nonsense. Again it means nothing. In fact I can honestly say if this is a real person, he is an idiot. If you and your invisible appearing out of nowhere LEO friend think open carrying is arrogant, then so be it. It is a silly blanket statement with no validity at all. Enjoy.
 
I'm for legalization.

In your example, it's no different than alcohol or cigs. You dont allow on your property what you dont want on your property.

And just like anything else, you dont know if your sitter will drink or smoke or snort, so choose a sitter wisely.
In TD's example the property owner was doing the snorting. So you're point here doesn't apply.
 
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