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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's an 'attractive nuisance.' Even if properly fenced. So are my horses, even behind no-climb wire fencing and hotwire.
    It depends on the state but we are told that there is no absolute way to protect yourself if a kid climbs your fence (even with a locked gate) and dies or get's injured.


    this is why pools can be a liability when selling a house.



    Lawyers have to make a living, eh?

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Unless there's a sick individual involved, no one wanted this to happen. So it's an accident. [doesn't mean someone isn't at fault]
    Of course no-one wanted this to happen. But leaving a gun that can be picked up by an unattended 5yr old, is NO accident. An accident by definition is an unforeseen event. Basic gun safety would stop this from happening.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Lawyers have to make a living, eh?
    True enough, but if people had ever regularly taken responsibility for their carelessness that causes injury or death to another or another's property, lawyers wouldn't be needed.

    I'm reasonably sure that if a neighbor's 75ft half dying tree that you'd complained about often, asked that they get it trimmed to not be over your property, drops a huge limb on your car, and your neighbor is uninsured and refuses to pay for car or clean up... you'd be finding a lawyer and be glad they were about.

    It's really stupid to blame lawyers for human behavior, both those that reneg and those that want to get unacceptably rich.
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I agree the parents should have their firearms secured. However, asking how it could happen with a secured firearm is like asking how that child just managed to do what no adult seems to be able to, open that child-proof pill bottle, or drive the parent's car through the garage. Even at five I was getting into things my parents had well secured. My brother and sister never did, but I had a creative knack.
    A little child's ability to bypass safe storage doesn't absolve a person of complete and total responsibility for this death.
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Pools are called an "attractive nuisance" and are covered by most insurance policies. Unless you are a renter. You have to buy renters insurance for a specific rider for a pool.
    If anyone's interested:
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...72197243,d.aWw
    If you have a pool, you have to take steps to control access.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    This story got me thinking..

    Should people be charged when a Child finds its way into a neighbors swimming pool ?

    Because drowning accidents kills more kids than gun accidents

    I go back and forth on the issue. I had a neighbor sho lost their 3 year old in another neighbors pool about 15 years ago.
    I believe there are laws in many areas stating exactly how you must secure your pool. I would assume failure to comply could lead to civil and criminal charges.

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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    ???? Really?

    Please see my signature, in blue.
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I believe there are laws in many areas stating exactly how you must secure your pool. I would assume failure to comply could lead to civil and criminal charges.
    With pools and horses, at least in some states, no matter what you do...you can still be held liable if they bypass your (up to guidelines) measures.
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: 5-year old Idaho girl dies afterIdaho playmate gets gun

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A little child's ability to bypass safe storage doesn't absolve a person of complete and total responsibility for this death.
    I have yet to meet the 5 y/o who can defeat a basic trigger lock. Ironicaly, however, I have met the 5 y/o who can defeat most microvaults. Turns out they're fairly easy to crack.

    ....the microvault, not the 5 y/o, kids have hard heads :P

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