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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Hydraulic fracturing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Not the best source but fracking doesn't sound like anything that would cause earthquakes, it's even natural in some instances, as for hydraulic fracturing it makes tiny tiny fractures 1 mm wide.

    People make it sound like fracking is taking a laser beam and smashing the **** out of a rock when in reality... (1mm wide, cmon guys).
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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I think the salient point is not whether fracking caused the earthquakes (it probably did) but that the earthquakes are so small that people can't detect them. There is no reason to think fracking would cause bad earthqualkes. It is just too small an issue for the planet.
    Whether or not an earthquake can be considered "bad" is relative to where you are. A fracking waste water injection well was responsible for about a dozen earthquakes in Youngstown, Ohio in 2011 which caused minor damage to the town. Keep in mind that even a series of minor quakes can be problematic because unlike California none of the buildings or infrastructure in Ohio are designed or constructed with earthquakes in mind. Think back to the 2011 5.8 magnitude earthquake to illustrate this point. Skyscrapers were swaying and downtown Columbus was evacuated because of an earthquake with an epicenter over 440 miles away. People in California on the other hand probably wouldn't even get out of bed for a 5.8 at that distance.
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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    I would lean towards no.
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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    You be the judge...

    http://news.yahoo.com/video/scientis...45519-cbs.html

    Millions of gallons of water.

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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Did I explain to you that my City, County, and State monitor and charge me for my water usage? And because of the "drought" and limited water supply, that figure rises substantially?

    Millions of gallons of water used by fracking in the oil industry is just OK with many people? What other externality costs in the market are we to incur from fracking? Earthquakes in Oklahoma? And where else? Are you kidding me?

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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    A geologist that I know explained it to me that what they do, before fracking is that they drill straight down say 5000 meters, where aquifers are at the deepest 1500 m (I'm sure I'm totally screwing up the numbers), and the charges they use will blow 20 m, 10 up and 10 down (or more likely 15 up and 5 down according to his estimation), and that allows the horizontal drilling towards the well.

    Point is, with 3500 meters of rock separating the charge from any potential aquifer, it would be an incredible exception that a fracture in the rock would extend that far out.

    What he said the problem is with all the charges against fracking is that many aquifers are tainted with methane deposits, heavy metals, or any other things that were there before fracking... and in every case either there was no testing done beforehand to accurately compare a before and after.
    Your numbers are close, but hydraulic fracturing involve the use of explosive charges.

    This notion is some serious fear mongering.
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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1 View Post
    Did I explain to you that my City, County, and State monitor and charge me for my water usage? And because of the "drought" and limited water supply, that figure rises substantially?

    Millions of gallons of water used by fracking in the oil industry is just OK with many people? What other externality costs in the market are we to incur from fracking? Earthquakes in Oklahoma? And where else? Are you kidding me?
    Fracking caused the drought, now?

    Are you aware that most of the water used in fracking is recycled?
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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Hydraulic fracturing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Not the best source but fracking doesn't sound like anything that would cause earthquakes, it's even natural in some instances, as for hydraulic fracturing it makes tiny tiny fractures 1 mm wide.

    People make it sound like fracking is taking a laser beam and smashing the **** out of a rock when in reality... (1mm wide, cmon guys).
    It is not the entry into the ground that is believed to cause the tremors, it is the injecting of fracking waste water under pressure deep into the ground for storage that is believed to cause the shaking.


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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Warwulf View Post
    Wasn't sure if this is a conspiracy or not, but fracking has already caused serious problems in other states.


    Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?
    I think it might be.Earth quakes in Oklahoma never seemed to be an issue.It was usually tornadoes and the occasional flooding.There might be consequences for pumping millions of gallons of liquid into the earth or it be as another poster stated a feather trying to knock down an elephant.I do not know who trust regarding the issue because the pro-fracking side is going to swear up and down that it doesn't cause earth quakes and if it does then its small earth quakes.While the anti-fracking side will swear up and down that it does cause earth quakes even though there might be a past history of earthquakes in Oklahoma. .
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    Re: Is Fracking Causing the Oklahoma Earthquakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Fracking caused the drought, now?

    Are you aware that most of the water used in fracking is recycled?
    Recycled from what? That doesn't account for the millions of gallons of water used. What, are you a pro-fracker? Explain to me, what happens after the intended seismic-causing "drilling" that fracking does, with the waste they put back into the ground? And mind you, this happens everywhere and on a grand scale. Come close to me, and we will see what seismic eruptions happen.

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