Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

[DA60]

'CONAKRY, Guinea (AP) — An Ebola outbreak that has killed more than 700 people in West Africa is moving faster than the efforts to control the disease, the head of the World Health Organization warned as presidents from the affected countries met Friday in Guinea's capital.

Doctors Without Borders said its teams were overwhelmed with new Ebola patients in Sierra Leone and that the situation in Liberia was now "dire."

Dr. Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organization, said the meeting in Conakry "must be a turning point" in the battle against Ebola, which is now sickening people in three African capitals for the first time in history.

"If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries," she said.'

WHO: Ebola moving faster than control efforts



This is not good...I wonder what kind of panic this will create if it starts spreading to other countries?

 

[clownboy]

So the answer for these great geniuses is to move the patients around the globe instead of containing them.

 

[joG]

'CONAKRY, Guinea (AP) — An Ebola outbreak that has killed more than 700 people in West Africa is moving faster than the efforts to control the disease, the head of the World Health Organization warned as presidents from the affected countries met Friday in Guinea's capital.

Doctors Without Borders said its teams were overwhelmed with new Ebola patients in Sierra Leone and that the situation in Liberia was now "dire."

Dr. Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organization, said the meeting in Conakry "must be a turning point" in the battle against Ebola, which is now sickening people in three African capitals for the first time in history.

"If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries," she said.'

WHO: Ebola moving faster than control efforts



This is not good...I wonder what kind of panic this will create if it starts spreading to other countries?

there was program on news TV the other day saying there was no real problem, because the virus did not spread very easily. I guess that was optimistic.

The upside is that we are getting a good feel for what it is to live in a B movie.

 

[DA60]

So the answer for these great geniuses is to move the patients around the globe instead of containing them.

Yeah, that seems pretty dumb to me as well.

 

[CRUE CAB]

The answer is thermonuclear.

 

[truthatallcost]

I remember hearing a spokeswoman for the CDC say that it was inevitable that Ebola would make it's way to the US eventually. This was on NPR during the Clinton years. I was angry when she said it, but she's right.

 

[PeteEU]

there was program on news TV the other day saying there was no real problem, because the virus did not spread very easily. I guess that was optimistic.

It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.

On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.

 

[Reformedfindlay]

It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.

On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.

Bye bye then, we tried helping, they don't want it :/

 

[PeteEU]

Bye bye then, we tried helping, they don't want it :/

Sorry but that is also bull****. The more Ebola spreads, the more chance of it mutating.. which means the bigger chance of it becoming airborne.. and THAT is a serious problem for everyone.

 

[Reformedfindlay]

Sorry but that is also bull****. The more Ebola spreads, the more chance of it mutating.. which means the bigger chance of it becoming airborne.. and THAT is a serious problem for everyone.

Assuming that mutations are that fast, is there a history showing how Ebola has mutated in the past? Or is your behind speaking on the matter?

I demand evidence that Ebola is some alien disease that can mutate to become airborne on a whim.

 

[Fenton]

So the answer for these great geniuses is to move the patients around the globe instead of containing them.

Unreal isn't it ?

 

[Fenton]

It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.

On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.

Man, me and you actually agree on something !

What can you do with people who continue to engage in dangerous behaviour after being warned otherwise ?

I read that the capture, slaughter and consumption of Fruit Bats is in large part to blame for the continued spread of the Ebola virus.

These people know that the continued harvesting of these and other animals that carry the virus is dangerous.

But they ignore the warnings.

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[grip]

If you want to read a short, well informed article on the Ebola outbreak and it's different strains.

News - As west Africa Ebola outbreak reaches historic proportions - where does it come from, how is it spread and why is it so deadly? - The Weather Network

I've read on this page where it's not likely to go airborne, but also isn't necessary to cause a pandemic. The chances of it spreading out of Africa are low but would show up in Europe first.

 

[GreatNews2night]

Two Americans who contracted it are being brought home to an isolation hospital wing in Atlanta. I hope this isolation unit really, well, isolates them.

Plane arrives in W. Africa to evacuate Americans infected with Ebola

 

[joG]

It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.

On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.

Same as HIV. Ignorance and behavior allow the spread of an illness, that needn't have become epidemic.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Man, me and you actually agree on something !

What can you do with people who continue to engage in dangerous behaviour after being warned otherwise ?

I read that the capture, slaughter and consumption of Fruit Bats is in large part to blame for the continued spread of the Ebola virus.

These people know that the continued harvesting of these and other animals that carry the virus is dangerous.

But they ignore the warnings.

I

You really have to read a little wider about things. You're spreading the same thing on the other Ebola thread.

It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.

You're usually better informed than this Pete.

The current outbreak is because of the tradition on the far west of west Africa for washing bodies before burial. That was not so much the case in previous oubreaks in Central and the main part of West Africa.

On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.

In it's entire recorded history it's only killed less than 2-3000 people. Lassa and Ebola are long known by Africans to be African diseases. It's HIV that had the rumour of being created and spread by Westerners.

Bye bye then, we tried helping, they don't want it :/

They have appreciated the help, luckily it's not from people so willing to look for excuses to walk away as you seem.

 

[PeteEU]

Same as HIV. Ignorance and behavior allow the spread of an illness, that needn't have become epidemic.

Yea but HIV does not spread via bodily contact. Washing a dead HIV patient does not spread the disease... it does with ebola.

 

[PeteEU]

You're usually better informed than this Pete.

The current outbreak is because of the tradition on the far west of west Africa for washing bodies before burial. That was not so much the case in previous oubreaks in Central and the main part of West Africa.

Er that is exactly what I wrote..

In it's entire recorded history it's only killed less than 2-3000 people. Lassa and Ebola are long known by Africans to be African diseases. It's HIV that had the rumour of being created and spread by Westerners.

Have you been following the news at all? All the stations have reported that one of the reasons that it is hard to contain is because people in the remote villages dont trust western doctors who came around the time that ebola showed its face and hence are being blamed for bringing it.

As Ebola spreads in Africa, some blame health workers - World News Report

There are 20 villages in southern Guinea where Doctors Without Borders, the main humanitarian agency fighting the crisis, can no longer go because of deep hostility toward health-care workers.

The Red Cross on Wednesday said it had been forced to suspend activities in southeast Guinea after its health workers were surrounded by a group of men with knives, threatened and blamed for causing the disease.

 

[joG]

Yea but HIV does not spread via bodily contact. Washing a dead HIV patient does not spread the disease... it does with ebola.

On the other hand, most ebola patients won't run around as carriers for years.

 

[PeteEU]

On the other hand, most ebola patients won't run around as carriers for years.

Yea but at least HIV can be treated prolonging the life of the patient.. where as ebola kills up to 90% in a matter of days. Problem is incubation period of ebola is relatively long.

 

[joG]

Yea but at least HIV can be treated prolonging the life of the patient.. where as ebola kills up to 90% in a matter of days. Problem is incubation period of ebola is relatively long.

It took quite some time before advances were made in HIV treatment and every patient died after a while. It practicality wiped out the homosexul population my parents were friendly with in New York and Munich. The contagion was unclear and dangerous. Do you think ebola might kill millions or would that require a mutation? What do you say?

 

[Paxaeon]

It took quite some time before advances were made in HIV treatment and every patient died after a while. It practicality wiped out the homosexul population my parents were friendly with in New York and Munich. The contagion was unclear and dangerous. Do you think ebola might kill millions or would that require a mutation? What do you say?

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When I hear or see medical scientists saying things like this: "Ebola Outbreak 'Not in the Cards' for U.S., CDC Director Says"....."not in the cards".....weasel words, doublespeak. That sends up all sorts of red flags to me at least. I can understand the use of such language on a population that is pretty much dumbed down, in order to avoid panic, but some of us are not that ignorant.

A far as it turning into an airborne mutation, according to virologist Beth Levine, M.D., director of virology research in the infectious diseases division at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons;

"Single amino acid mutations can change the tropism [the residential preference] of a virus" in some experimental situations, but there haven't been any examples of such mutations actually occurring in nature, changing a virus from a bloodborne or bodily fluid route of transmission to a respiratory route."

So, says Dr. Levine, "The media's claim is not totally without scientific basis. But there are no precedents for it, and it's unlikely.

"I think it's irresponsible to raise that concern," she added - source ​

Key word; "unlikely". Linguistically it lacks a high degree of certitude and that sounds more like a PR statement as opposed to something factual.

Logic dictates that a prudent person be aware of the myriad of possibilities such a disease may entail and plan accordingly.
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[1750Texan]

Assuming that mutations are that fast, is there a history showing how Ebola has mutated in the past? Or is your behind speaking on the matter?

I demand evidence that Ebola is some alien disease that can mutate to become airborne on a whim.

Because all pathogens mutate. It is the reverse...it is highly unlikely that this virus does not mutate. A pathogen does not have to be airborne to be highly contagious.

 

[Dibbler]

 

[1750Texan]

It is dumber to not care for them and learn as much as we can. Fear is dumb. People in our modern age thought AIDS could be picked-up from toilet seats and door knobs.

fear is dumb.