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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Who said four hours? Not the article I quoted. Maybe you have other info, but the one I quoted said:

    Now, I understand that six earlier cases have already been tested and ruled out. This newest one is the one that is still pending.

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    Oh, OK, I just saw this update:

    I'm not sure if the update was given only 4 hours after the man was admitted. I just saw it now, several hours after the first news, so maybe they did rush samples to the CDC by jet and have a better sense by now that it's not Ebola, although what the NYCHD is saying is that it hasn't been definitely ruled out yet.
    It's highly likely this guy does have it as he was in direct contact during his trip (despite what press and CDC says, they can't rule it out and that's a big sign). For every real case you have 5 or 6 "looks like". I wouldn't be surprised if it confirmed a few days from now as a way to tamper panic. Problem is this dude walked around for a while in NYC, that a big problem, also the fact he went to the ER and spewed a bit in the waiting room and had contact with doctors and nurses not prepared for a "Ebola" case.

    1 case in the US can become 2, 2 can become 4 and so on. So it's one of those things.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Oh come on...what kind of panic-type thread is this.

    What ding don't started this thread?

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    It's highly likely this guy does have it as he was in direct contact during his trip (despite what press and CDC says, they can't rule it out and that's a big sign). For every real case you have 5 or 6 "looks like". I wouldn't be surprised if it confirmed a few days from now as a way to tamper panic. Problem is this dude walked around for a while in NYC, that a big problem, also the fact he went to the ER and spewed a bit in the waiting room and had contact with doctors and nurses not prepared for a "Ebola" case.

    1 case in the US can become 2, 2 can become 4 and so on. So it's one of those things.
    Why do you assume lies? The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are serious institutions, manned by responsible scientists. If there is a case of Ebola in the United States, the outbreak would be better controlled with the public knowing about it and taking precautions rather than running blindly into possible contagious sources.

    Why does everything slide so easily into some conspiracy theory? Why do you think the CDC would hide this information from the public? We are in America, not in China.

    I think that if the CDC reports that someone has tested negative for Ebola, the only reason for the report is that... the person has actually tested negative for Ebola. Simple, no? No reason for conspiracy theories.

    The moment someone tests positive, that is what will be reported. One doesn't combat an outbreak with lies, but rather with facts and public education.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    It's highly likely this guy does have it as he was in direct contact during his trip (despite what press and CDC says, they can't rule it out and that's a big sign). For every real case you have 5 or 6 "looks like". I wouldn't be surprised if it confirmed a few days from now as a way to tamper panic. Problem is this dude walked around for a while in NYC, that a big problem, also the fact he went to the ER and spewed a bit in the waiting room and had contact with doctors and nurses not prepared for a "Ebola" case.

    1 case in the US can become 2, 2 can become 4 and so on. So it's one of those things.
    It's passed by fluids which makes it very difficult for it to spread rapidly. That is why after several weeks of mass outbreak in West Africa we have seen less than 1,500 actual cases. Ebola is worthy of our concern but people shouldn't needlessly panic.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It's passed by fluids which makes it very difficult for it to spread rapidly. That is why after several weeks of mass outbreak in West Africa we have seen less than 1,500 actual cases. Ebola is worthy of our concern but people shouldn't needlessly panic.
    1). This is incorrect. They have found that it can be passed when aerosolized, and there are examples of Ebola being airborne.

    2). Never take numbers from Africa as correct as many of those effected DON'T seek treatment at Hospitals, but rather seek other ways to treat themselves. Being underreported.

    3). It's in major cities in Africa. It's now in, Lagos, Nigeria.
    Once it gets into major cities in Africa, it's 1 step away from going to other countries. Like Saudi Arabia. It's now officially spread to other continents.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Why do you assume lies? The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are serious institutions, manned by responsible scientists. If there is a case of Ebola in the United States, the outbreak would be better controlled with the public knowing about it and taking precautions rather than running blindly into possible contagious sources.
    It is easier to lighten the blow by parsing words or downplaying issues then confronting the problem. CDC is a Government institution part of Health and Humane Services. It's a political (run by President's Admin) agency.

    If Ebola was in the US, panic would happen. If 20 cases showed up in NYC you'd have everyone in their mother getting tested and taxing hospital services. That's human nature.


    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Why does everything slide so easily into some conspiracy theory? Why do you think the CDC would hide this information from the public? We are in America, not in China.
    Government ALWAYS hides information from the public, doesn't matter if it's China or America. They all do it. To hold a position that America never would do that... is ignoring the history of the US doing it. Think about it US Government (CDC and Army's facility at Fort Detrick) is using a serum it's been working on for years for those two Ebola patients in Atlanta.. but not once did they offer to those in Africa.

    But is MSM reporting and what do people wrongly believe? That you can only get it from direct contact. CDC is telling airlines something different.


    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    I think that if the CDC reports that someone has tested negative for Ebola, the only reason for the report is that... the person has actually tested negative for Ebola. Simple, no? No reason for conspiracy theories.
    And I said it takes days (up to 10 days) for an accurate test. This is scientific fact. But they are denying or confirming in less then 24 hours. That's a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    The moment someone tests positive, that is what will be reported. One doesn't combat an outbreak with lies, but rather with facts and public education.
    One doesn't combat and outbreak by allowing flight/shippings from that region to the US on a daily basis either. You can't have it both ways. You can't say they'll be truthful but ignore their own advice about methods of travel and allow the disease to come to the US via flight/shipping.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Oh come on...what kind of panic-type thread is this.

    What ding don't started this thread?

    ...

    Never mind.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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