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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Reality is it's 6 people.
    All six have tested negative, so hopefully this one will test negative as well. Mount Sinai officials are saying it's very likely that it's not Ebola.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

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    'CONAKRY, Guinea (AP) An Ebola outbreak that has killed more than 700 people in West Africa is moving faster than the efforts to control the disease, the head of the World Health Organization warned as presidents from the affected countries met Friday in Guinea's capital.

    Doctors Without Borders said its teams were overwhelmed with new Ebola patients in Sierra Leone and that the situation in Liberia was now "dire."

    Dr. Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organization, said the meeting in Conakry "must be a turning point" in the battle against Ebola, which is now sickening people in three African capitals for the first time in history.

    "If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries," she said.'

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    This is not good...I wonder what kind of panic this will create if it starts spreading to other countries?
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    All six have tested negative, so hopefully this one will test negative as well. Mount Sinai officials are saying it's very likely that it's not Ebola.
    Testing negative doesn't mean anything when it comes to VHF diseases. So it'll be interesting in which test they used to "confirm or deny".
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Its only a matter of time before we get a confirmed Ebola case in the US if we don't start limiting travel to the US. There was an infected man that was trying to fly back to the US just last week when he collapsed at the airport. Someone is going to make it through eventually.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'll bet the doomsday preppers are all masturbating with glee at their perceived coming of the apocalypse.
    Hey now.. you don't know if they are being denied some action.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Hey now.. you don't know if they are being denied some action.
    When you look at these couples it always seems like the guy is overly excited and desperately wanting the apocalypse to happen and the woman at best seems like she is desperately wanting to keep her husband happy with her so she's along for the ride and playing the role. So you're right... they probably have some submissive action. My bad. lol
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Testing negative doesn't mean anything when it comes to VHF diseases. So it'll be interesting in which test they used to "confirm or deny".
    From your own article:

    [url]i) False-negative RT-PCR results are likely to occur for patients with severe viral hemorrhagic fevers, especially in the acute phase of the disease where a rapid confirmation is required. Their plasma may contain large amounts of RT-PCR inhibitors, probably resulting from the decay of tissue. These inhibitors can be detected by control reactions with spiked samples (low copy numbers of control RNA, 1 log10 above detection limit of the PCR) (5). Control reactions to detect inhibitors of RT-PCR are mandatory for a safe diagnosis for patients with suspected VHF.[/quote]

    So, there is a way to get around the false negative results. I'm sure the CDC will be assisting Mount Sinai in getting the diagnosis right (or ruling it out).

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    From your own article:

    [url]i) False-negative RT-PCR results are likely to occur for patients with severe viral hemorrhagic fevers, especially in the acute phase of the disease where a rapid confirmation is required. Their plasma may contain large amounts of RT-PCR inhibitors, probably resulting from the decay of tissue. These inhibitors can be detected by control reactions with spiked samples (low copy numbers of control RNA, 1 log10 above detection limit of the PCR) (5). Control reactions to detect inhibitors of RT-PCR are mandatory for a safe diagnosis for patients with suspected VHF.

    So, there is a way to get around the false negative results. I'm sure the CDC will be assisting Mount Sinai in getting the diagnosis right (or ruling it out).
    Of course, like I said it's how you test. Mount Sinai isn't one of the 4 Hospitals in the US that can handle Ebola cases so for tests like that to be cleared less then 4 hours after admitting is bit of stretch. Alone it's a 2 hr flight to Atlanta (CDC) for testing. They could take the sample to Fort Detrick, MD (Fredrick) but that's 2 hours as well. Either flying in to Baltimore/DC and the hour drive or flying to Hagerstown and driving the 30 mins to the facility (United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases).
    So let's not assume it's 100% all clear yet.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

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    Sorry but that is also bull****. The more Ebola spreads, the more chance of it mutating.. which means the bigger chance of it becoming airborne.. and THAT is a serious problem for everyone.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Of course, like I said it's how you test. Mount Sinai isn't one of the 4 Hospitals in the US that can handle Ebola cases so for tests like that to be cleared less then 4 hours after admitting is bit of stretch. Alone it's a 2 hr flight to Atlanta (CDC) for testing. They could take the sample to Fort Detrick, MD (Fredrick) but that's 2 hours as well. Either flying in to Baltimore/DC and the hour drive or flying to Hagerstown and driving the 30 mins to the facility (United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases).
    So let's not assume it's 100% all clear yet.
    Who said four hours? Not the article I quoted. Maybe you have other info, but the one I quoted said:

    Hospital officials said they expect to have answers within the next 24-48 hours about whether the disease is Ebola or not. The samples will arrive for testing at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sometime tonight or tomorrow.
    Now, I understand that six earlier cases have already been tested and ruled out. This newest one is the one that is still pending.

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    Oh, OK, I just saw this update:

    Update: “After consultation with CDC and Mount Sinai, the Health Department has concluded that the patient is unlikely to have Ebola. Specimens are being tested for common causes of illness and to definitively exclude Ebola,” the New York City Health Department said.
    I'm not sure if the update was given only 4 hours after the man was admitted. Probably not. I just saw it now, several hours after the first news (which said the man was admitted in the early morning hours), so maybe they did rush samples to the CDC by jet and have a better sense by now that it's not Ebola, although what the NYCHD is saying is that it hasn't been definitely ruled out yet.
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