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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'CONAKRY, Guinea (AP) — An Ebola outbreak that has killed more than 700 people in West Africa is moving faster than the efforts to control the disease, the head of the World Health Organization warned as presidents from the affected countries met Friday in Guinea's capital.

    Doctors Without Borders said its teams were overwhelmed with new Ebola patients in Sierra Leone and that the situation in Liberia was now "dire."

    Dr. Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organization, said the meeting in Conakry "must be a turning point" in the battle against Ebola, which is now sickening people in three African capitals for the first time in history.

    "If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries," she said.'

    WHO: Ebola moving faster than control efforts



    This is not good...I wonder what kind of panic this will create if it starts spreading to other countries?
    Certainly a situation that needs to be dealt with, but not something of great concern. A disease that kills 700 people should be no more than a footnote if you want to talk about diseases that kill people. This is simply an attempt by drug companies to scare people so they can increase their funding. 700 people dieing is not a global epidemic. Hell, it may not even be a local epidemic depending on the locality. Again, drug companies are trying to fear us into funding them. They did this with bird flue and other "flue's" claiming them as the next epidemic as well...
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It is unlikely that you will be killed by falling airplane parts. But logic dictates that a prudent person be aware of this risk and take actions to mitigate it. Might I suggest living in a cave?Chance of being killed by falling airplane parts. 1 in 10 million. That's unlikely. But possible. So now you have something else to fret about. You needn't thank me. I was just trying to help.
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    1) The OP compares the highly contagious "ebola" virus with falling airplane parts – Not too smart Ebola virus disease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    2) The same person who used the logic that compares this disease with falling airplane parts suggests living in a cave. While it could be argued that a person living in a cave came up with this suggestion, there is no medical or empirical evidence that states this would be necessary, prudent or logic.

    3) While the OP is correct about the odds of getting killed by a falling airplane part, Has there ever been any one killed by falling airplane parts? - again, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Ebola virus.

    4) Considering this great magnitude of nothing shared on this topic, the OP wants to assure you not to fret about Ebola. While the sentiment is correct, a wise a prudent person might try contacting someone who isn’t obsessed with falling air plane parts. such as;

    WHO - Ebola virus disease

    CDC -Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever

    Anticipating the Next Pandemic

    As to any possible mutation to the Ebola virus,

    "A virus seeks out a host that is capable of transmitting it to as many additional hosts as possible. If any host in the chain of transmission expires within a short period of time, then the progression of the virus is arrested. Hence, the infectious qualities of the virus in question are limited by the virus' degree of virulence--its ability to claim multiple victims and produce fatal symptoms. Thus, considering that the former characteristic of virulence is the most limiting factor for the Ebola virus, is its evolution guaranteed? Is the Ebola virus a candidate for genetic mutation, and what is the rationale behind a pathogen that lacks a prolonged latency period?

    The answers to the above questions are not yet determinable with regards to the Ebola virus, for it is still a relatively new virus. While the genome has been sequenced, a number of questions still remain unanswered. While scientists have yet to discover all of the mysteries behind viral behavior, it may be assumed that Ebola has ensured its progression and subsequent evolution through its ability to be transmitted via short-term vectors"
    - The Ebola Virus: Candidate for Genetic Mutation?

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well, you don't have that right, so sounds like you are part of that problem you describe. Ebola only requires contact with the FLUIDS of an infected person. Contact with a "sufferer" not required.
    Thanks for the correction - the fluids are the risk and inappropriate risk control measures in health care settings.

    The point still remains that the current threat is being blown completely out of proportion when you consider the number of deaths over a 40 year period when compared to other viruses and risks.

    It's just the nasty way people die that has fascinated the press and keeps this story so scary for the uninformed.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'CONAKRY, Guinea (AP) — An Ebola outbreak that has killed more than 700 people in West Africa is moving faster than the efforts to control the disease, the head of the World Health Organization warned as presidents from the affected countries met Friday in Guinea's capital.

    Doctors Without Borders said its teams were overwhelmed with new Ebola patients in Sierra Leone and that the situation in Liberia was now "dire."

    Dr. Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organization, said the meeting in Conakry "must be a turning point" in the battle against Ebola, which is now sickening people in three African capitals for the first time in history.

    "If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries," she said.'

    WHO: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    This is not good...I wonder what kind of panic this will create if it starts spreading to other countries?
    You mean USA and Europe? A huge panic!

    Unless they already found something against the darn virus!
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    From the WHO:

    "People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. "

    So starting from infection.
    I suppose so, if you were to get a blood transfusion from an infected person. The incubation period is when the virus is still latent in cells, replicating, and probably not flooding all fluids like sweat. I'd think that the idea that it only gets contagious when symptoms start, is because symptoms such as profuse sweating, vomiting and diarrhea and external bleeding would throw bodily fluids all over the place, while when the virus is still contained in the blood, you'd only get if if you got in contact with a person's blood, which is not likely to happen just by, say, sitting side by side on a plane with someone who got the virus but is still in incubation period, with no reason to start bleeding or vomiting all over the place.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    1) The OP compares the highly contagious "ebola" virus with falling airplane parts – Not too smart Ebola virus disease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    OP is either "original Poster" or "original post". In no case am I the "OP" here. And I didn't compare the ebola virus with falling airplane parts. I compared your assertion that it could become airborne with the assertion that you could be killed by falling airplane parts. Just because something "could" happen doesn't make it a high probability. The chance of ebola mutating into an airborne pathogen while in that isolation ward is lower than the chance you'll get killed by falling airplane parts.

    But if you feel that it's prudent to protect yourself from things that have even such long odds of ever happening, I thought I'd tell you about the airplane parts since they're the bigger threat.

    2) The same person who used the logic that compares this disease with falling airplane parts suggests living in a cave. While it could be argued that a person living in a cave came up with this suggestion, there is no medical or empirical evidence that states this would be necessary, prudent or logic.

    3) While the OP is correct about the odds of getting killed by a falling airplane part, Has there ever been any one killed by falling airplane parts? - again, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Ebola virus.

    4) Considering this great magnitude of nothing shared on this topic, the OP wants to assure you not to fret about Ebola. While the sentiment is correct, a wise a prudent person might try contacting someone who isn’t obsessed with falling air plane parts. such as;

    WHO - Ebola virus disease

    CDC -Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever

    Anticipating the Next Pandemic

    As to any possible mutation to the Ebola virus,

    "A virus seeks out a host that is capable of transmitting it to as many additional hosts as possible. If any host in the chain of transmission expires within a short period of time, then the progression of the virus is arrested. Hence, the infectious qualities of the virus in question are limited by the virus' degree of virulence--its ability to claim multiple victims and produce fatal symptoms. Thus, considering that the former characteristic of virulence is the most limiting factor for the Ebola virus, is its evolution guaranteed? Is the Ebola virus a candidate for genetic mutation, and what is the rationale behind a pathogen that lacks a prolonged latency period?

    The answers to the above questions are not yet determinable with regards to the Ebola virus, for it is still a relatively new virus. While the genome has been sequenced, a number of questions still remain unanswered. While scientists have yet to discover all of the mysteries behind viral behavior, it may be assumed that Ebola has ensured its progression and subsequent evolution through its ability to be transmitted via short-term vectors"
    - The Ebola Virus: Candidate for Genetic Mutation?

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    Yes, people have been killed by falling airplane parts.

    No one has been killed by a mutation of a deadly virus that mutated from fluid borne to airborne in modern history.

    A prudent person would realize that the falling airplane parts would be the greater threat. You may note that the AIDS virus never mutated thusly even though over 36 million people on this planet are living with it. Did you freak out the same way over AIDS going airborne?

    Falling airplane parts... a more likely danger for you to focus on. But don't let me interfere if you're enjoying a good scary story.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    1) The OP compares the highly contagious "ebola" virus with falling airplane parts – Not too smart Ebola virus disease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    OP is either "original Poster" or "original post". In no case am I the "OP" here. And I didn't compare the ebola virus with falling airplane parts. I compared your assertion that it could become airborne with the assertion that you could be killed by falling airplane parts. Just because something "could" happen doesn't make it a high probability. The chance of ebola mutating into an airborne pathogen while in that isolation ward is lower than the chance you'll get killed by falling airplane parts.

    But if you feel that it's prudent to protect yourself from things that have even such long odds of ever happening, I thought I'd tell you about the airplane parts since they're the bigger threat.

    2) The same person who used the logic that compares this disease with falling airplane parts suggests living in a cave. While it could be argued that a person living in a cave came up with this suggestion, there is no medical or empirical evidence that states this would be necessary, prudent or logic.

    3) While the OP is correct about the odds of getting killed by a falling airplane part, Has there ever been any one killed by falling airplane parts? - again, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Ebola virus.

    4) Considering this great magnitude of nothing shared on this topic, the OP wants to assure you not to fret about Ebola. While the sentiment is correct, a wise a prudent person might try contacting someone who isn’t obsessed with falling air plane parts. such as;

    WHO - Ebola virus disease

    CDC -Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever

    Anticipating the Next Pandemic

    As to any possible mutation to the Ebola virus,

    "A virus seeks out a host that is capable of transmitting it to as many additional hosts as possible. If any host in the chain of transmission expires within a short period of time, then the progression of the virus is arrested. Hence, the infectious qualities of the virus in question are limited by the virus' degree of virulence--its ability to claim multiple victims and produce fatal symptoms. Thus, considering that the former characteristic of virulence is the most limiting factor for the Ebola virus, is its evolution guaranteed? Is the Ebola virus a candidate for genetic mutation, and what is the rationale behind a pathogen that lacks a prolonged latency period?

    The answers to the above questions are not yet determinable with regards to the Ebola virus, for it is still a relatively new virus. While the genome has been sequenced, a number of questions still remain unanswered. While scientists have yet to discover all of the mysteries behind viral behavior, it may be assumed that Ebola has ensured its progression and subsequent evolution through its ability to be transmitted via short-term vectors"
    - The Ebola Virus: Candidate for Genetic Mutation?

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    Yes, people have been killed by falling airplane parts.

    No one has been killed by a mutation of a deadly virus that mutated from fluid borne to airborne in modern history.

    A prudent person would realize that the falling airplane parts would be the greater threat. You may note that the AIDS virus never mutated thusly even though over 36 million people on this planet are living with it. Did you freak out the same way over AIDS going airborne?

    Falling airplane parts... a more likely danger for you to focus on. But don't let me interfere if you're enjoying a good scary story.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Certainly a situation that needs to be dealt with, but not something of great concern. A disease that kills 700 people should be no more than a footnote if you want to talk about diseases that kill people. This is simply an attempt by drug companies to scare people so they can increase their funding. 700 people dieing is not a global epidemic. Hell, it may not even be a local epidemic depending on the locality. Again, drug companies are trying to fear us into funding them. They did this with bird flue and other "flue's" claiming them as the next epidemic as well...
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    WHO says Ebola Outbreak Spreading 'Faster Than Our Efforts to Control it' -

    "After announcing plans to step up efforts in the fight against the worst-ever Ebola outbreak in West Africa, the World Health Organization (WHO) warned on Friday that they are at a 'turning point in the outbreak response' and must act swiftly to prevent a further spread of the deadly virus.

    The outbreak—which has mainly affected Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone—has so far infected 1,323 people and killed 729 since it was first identified in March. Addressing the presidents of the three African nations on Friday, general director of the WHO Dr. Margaret Chan described the outbreak as "the largest ever in the nearly four-decade history of the disease" as she offered a "frank assessment" of the current crisis.

    "First," Chan said, "this outbreak is moving faster than our efforts to control it. If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socioeconomic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries." As I said before, this meeting must mark a turning point in the outbreak response.

    Additionally, she added, "the outbreak is affecting a large number of doctors, nurses, and other health care workers, one of the most essential resources for containing an outbreak. To date, more than 60 health care workers have lost their lives in helping others.""
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    If you think the above quoted reply is cold-blooded, check this out:

    Trump Wants To Abandon U.S. Ebola Victims In Africa: They Must ‘Suffer The Consequences’ - Birds of a feather tend to flock together.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Patient admitted to Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC is being tested for Ebola.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/nyc-pa...202210439.html

    Hopefully it isn't Ebola.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Patient admitted to Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC is being tested for Ebola.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/nyc-pa...202210439.html

    Hopefully it isn't Ebola.
    Reality is it's 6 people.

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