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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Key words highlighted; doesn't justify saying it as a generalisation. It's like some country hick bumpkin here in the west and saying he or she represents the viewpoint of all in a country or worse still - a section of a continent. If I found a UK country bumpkin who thought all Danes were blonde and good looking would that mean all Western Europeans thought all Danes were blonde and good looking?


    God, don't reporters have a duty to research the story they are telling? Ebola requires close physical contact with a sufferer to be contagious. This report and the youtube video is just playing on the fears of the ignorant.
    Well, you don't have that right, so sounds like you are part of that problem you describe. Ebola only requires contact with the FLUIDS of an infected person. Contact with a "sufferer" not required.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    I'm not sure if it is true, but I actually read somewhere (no, I don't have the link) that Ebola is only contagious when the person is already having symptoms, therefore if this is true the long incubation period would be less of a problem, no?
    That is what the CDC director said. Of course, just like AIDS, the story is softened for the public lay person.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Not hardly. You are talking about countries that have been torn by decades of civil war, with extremely weak and corrupt government institutions, and no public health system to speak of. If you think countries where the vast majority of human waste is simply washed down the side of streets, are capable of implementing effective quarantines, then you are pretty naive.

    This is the kind of place that Ebola becomes an epidemic in:

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    Again, Ebola epidemics are due to the slow incubation. Patients are infectious for days before they become symptomatic. The reason there isn't Ebola in the US is because Ebola isn't native to the US. The reason Ebola usually doesn't spread is because of the poverty in the regions where Ebola outbreaks happen. There is little chance for it to escape the region before the host dies.

    Why this is different is because it has broken out in a more mobile population, and infected people have traveled long distances before being symptomatic. If it has spread to the US we might not know it for a week or more.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That is what the CDC director said. Of course, just like AIDS, the story is softened for the public lay person.
    AIDS in the 1970s spread VERY slowly due to the lack of mobility in the populations where it started. It eventually reached populations on major waterways and began to spread much faster. This Ebola outbreak was on airplanes within a month.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Overall, think its a bad idea. The type of treatment used for Ebola can pretty much be provided anywhere.

    Just hope and they likely will take all precautions, particularly for those providing care to them. If I were one of the caregivers, I wouldn't even leave the facility until they recover or they're dead and was 100% positive I wasn't symptomatic.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    And these were missionaries, as much as I respect believers and love religious philosophy, mixing religion and medical science is....dumb, dumb, dumb...


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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Again, Ebola epidemics are due to the slow incubation. Patients are infectious for days before they become symptomatic.
    This doesn't seem to be true. All the sources are saying that patients are only infectious when they are actively having symptoms.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibbler View Post
    And these were missionaries, as much as I respect believers and love religious philosophy, mixing religion and medical science is....dumb, dumb, dumb...


    As a Christian I think thats Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Right, in those countries the outbreak is moving faster than the efforts to control it because you have war torn countries, with no public health systems, and grossly under-resourced WHO trying to contain it. The same scenario would not happen in nations like the USA, Canada, or France.
    The USA, Canada and France have a much better chance of containing an outbreak but to say an epidemic on some level wouldn't happen is not a certainty.

    Some viruses like Epstein-Barr, Hep C and HIV stay circulating within the population for a long time. Once a pathogen gets into the wild it's very hard to contain.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    This doesn't seem to be true. All the sources are saying that patients are only infectious when they are actively having symptoms.
    From the WHO:

    "People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. "

    So starting from infection.
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