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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Ebola spreads in countries with very poor public health systems (usually war torn countries). There would not be 700 plus deaths in an ebola outbreak in a modern industrialized nation. For example, just because there was a cholera epidemic in Nigeria does not mean that Seattle is at risk for one.

    The concern with Ebola is the number of horrible deaths it could cause in the third world, not that it will break out and become some kind of a global pandemic. It would quickly be contained in any developed nation.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

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    Ebola spreads in countries with very poor public health systems (usually war torn countries). There would not be 700 plus deaths in an ebola outbreak in a modern industrialized nation. For example, just because there was a cholera epidemic in Nigeria does not mean that Seattle is at risk for one.

    The concern with Ebola is the number of horrible deaths it could cause in the third world, not that it will break out and become some kind of a global pandemic. It would quickly be contained in any developed nation.

    It continues to be an issue in third world Countries because the locals continue to practice risky behaviours, even after they've been warned.

    They know fruit bats carry the disease, but they continue to catch, slaughter and eat fruit bats.

    They know washing their dead can lead to Ebola spreading but they continue to wash their dead.

    But when it spreads they want WHO and the American CDC to step in.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Yeah, not good. This is an example of why a globalized world comes with steep consequences. If ebola becomes a pandemic, life will be spent in interesting days. Why? The measures that would be taken: quarantining the sick from the healthy which is equally true from the opposite: quarantining the healthy from the sick.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Ebola spreads in countries with very poor public health systems (usually war torn countries). There would not be 700 plus deaths in an ebola outbreak in a modern industrialized nation. For example, just because there was a cholera epidemic in Nigeria does not mean that Seattle is at risk for one.

    The concern with Ebola is the number of horrible deaths it could cause in the third world, not that it will break out and become some kind of a global pandemic. It would quickly be contained in any developed nation.
    That isn't true. The danger of Ebola is the long incubation period and the lethality. A person with Ebola in New York City could infect hundreds or thousands of people before they even know they are sick, and those they infect could do the same before the first person becomes symptomatic. The only thing that fights Ebola is quarantine which they are just as capable of doing in Africa as they are in the US.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That isn't true. The danger of Ebola is the long incubation period and the lethality. A person with Ebola in New York City could infect hundreds or thousands of people before they even know they are sick, and those they infect could do the same before the first person becomes symptomatic. The only thing that fights Ebola is quarantine which they are just as capable of doing in Africa as they are in the US.
    I'm not sure if it is true, but I actually read somewhere (no, I don't have the link) that Ebola is only contagious when the person is already having symptoms, therefore if this is true the long incubation period would be less of a problem, no?

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    I'm not sure if it is true, but I actually read somewhere (no, I don't have the link) that Ebola is only contagious when the person is already having symptoms, therefore if this is true the long incubation period would be less of a problem, no?
    OK, I did find the link; the article does say that it's only when someone is having the symptoms that person can spread the virus to others. So, during the incubation period the person is not infecting others.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That isn't true. The danger of Ebola is the long incubation period and the lethality. A person with Ebola in New York City could infect hundreds or thousands of people before they even know they are sick, and those they infect could do the same before the first person becomes symptomatic. The only thing that fights Ebola is quarantine which they are just as capable of doing in Africa as they are in the US.
    Not hardly. You are talking about countries that have been torn by decades of civil war, with extremely weak and corrupt government institutions, and no public health system to speak of. If you think countries where the vast majority of human waste is simply washed down the side of streets, are capable of implementing effective quarantines, then you are pretty naive.

    This is the kind of place that Ebola becomes an epidemic in:

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Not hardly. You are talking about countries that have been torn by decades of civil war, with extremely weak and corrupt government institutions, and no public health system to speak of. If you think countries where the vast majority of human waste is simply washed down the side of streets, are capable of implementing effective quarantines, then you are pretty naive.

    This is the kind of place that Ebola becomes an epidemic in:

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    Normally, I would agree, until I read this statement from the chief of the World Health Organization.

    WHO chief Margaret Chan told leaders that the response of the three countries to the epidemic had been "woefully inadequate", revealing that the outbreak was "moving faster than our efforts to control it".

    "If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries," Chan said.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Normally, I would agree, until I read this statement from the chief of the World Health Organization.
    Right, in those countries the outbreak is moving faster than the efforts to control it because you have war torn countries, with no public health systems, and grossly under-resourced WHO trying to contain it. The same scenario would not happen in nations like the USA, Canada, or France.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

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    It is unlikely that you will be killed by falling airplane parts. But logic dictates that a prudent person be aware of this risk and take actions to mitigate it. Might I suggest living in a cave?

    Chance of being killed by falling airplane parts. 1 in 10 million. That's unlikely. But possible. So now you have something else to fret about. You needn't thank me. I was just trying to help.
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