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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So the answer for these great geniuses is to move the patients around the globe instead of containing them.

    Unreal isn't it ?

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

    When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.

    On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.
    Man, me and you actually agree on something !

    What can you do with people who continue to engage in dangerous behaviour after being warned otherwise ?

    I read that the capture, slaughter and consumption of Fruit Bats is in large part to blame for the continued spread of the Ebola virus.

    These people know that the continued harvesting of these and other animals that carry the virus is dangerous.

    But they ignore the warnings.

    I

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    If you want to read a short, well informed article on the Ebola outbreak and it's different strains.

    News - As west Africa Ebola outbreak reaches historic proportions - where does it come from, how is it spread and why is it so deadly? - The Weather Network

    I've read on this page where it's not likely to go airborne, but also isn't necessary to cause a pandemic. The chances of it spreading out of Africa are low but would show up in Europe first.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Two Americans who contracted it are being brought home to an isolation hospital wing in Atlanta. I hope this isolation unit really, well, isolates them.

    Plane arrives in W. Africa to evacuate Americans infected with Ebola

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

    When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.

    On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.
    Same as HIV. Ignorance and behavior allow the spread of an illness, that needn't have become epidemic.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Man, me and you actually agree on something !

    What can you do with people who continue to engage in dangerous behaviour after being warned otherwise ?

    I read that the capture, slaughter and consumption of Fruit Bats is in large part to blame for the continued spread of the Ebola virus.

    These people know that the continued harvesting of these and other animals that carry the virus is dangerous.

    But they ignore the warnings.

    I
    You really have to read a little wider about things. You're spreading the same thing on the other Ebola thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It does not spread easily. The problem is simple.. ignorance and tradition. These people are basically killing themselves because of it.

    When people die in most west African countries, their families take the body and wash it for burial. Bad idea when the disease spreads via bodily fluids.
    You're usually better informed than this Pete.

    The current outbreak is because of the tradition on the far west of west Africa for washing bodies before burial. That was not so much the case in previous oubreaks in Central and the main part of West Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    On top of that, many of these people believe that westerns brought the disease with them and hence refuse to listen to advice.
    In it's entire recorded history it's only killed less than 2-3000 people. Lassa and Ebola are long known by Africans to be African diseases. It's HIV that had the rumour of being created and spread by Westerners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Bye bye then, we tried helping, they don't want it :/
    They have appreciated the help, luckily it's not from people so willing to look for excuses to walk away as you seem.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Same as HIV. Ignorance and behavior allow the spread of an illness, that needn't have become epidemic.
    Yea but HIV does not spread via bodily contact. Washing a dead HIV patient does not spread the disease... it does with ebola.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    You're usually better informed than this Pete.

    The current outbreak is because of the tradition on the far west of west Africa for washing bodies before burial. That was not so much the case in previous oubreaks in Central and the main part of West Africa.
    Er that is exactly what I wrote..

    In it's entire recorded history it's only killed less than 2-3000 people. Lassa and Ebola are long known by Africans to be African diseases. It's HIV that had the rumour of being created and spread by Westerners.
    Have you been following the news at all? All the stations have reported that one of the reasons that it is hard to contain is because people in the remote villages dont trust western doctors who came around the time that ebola showed its face and hence are being blamed for bringing it.

    As Ebola spreads in Africa, some blame health workers - World News Report

    There are 20 villages in southern Guinea where Doctors Without Borders, the main humanitarian agency fighting the crisis, can no longer go because of deep hostility toward health-care workers.
    The Red Cross on Wednesday said it had been forced to suspend activities in southeast Guinea after its health workers were surrounded by a group of men with knives, threatened and blamed for causing the disease.
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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea but HIV does not spread via bodily contact. Washing a dead HIV patient does not spread the disease... it does with ebola.
    On the other hand, most ebola patients won't run around as carriers for years.

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    Re: Who: Ebola moving faster than control efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    On the other hand, most ebola patients won't run around as carriers for years.
    Yea but at least HIV can be treated prolonging the life of the patient.. where as ebola kills up to 90% in a matter of days. Problem is incubation period of ebola is relatively long.
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