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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... killing the leaders of rival organizations is generally a bad strategy unless you are willing to commit to a full scale war.
    depending. It can also be a way to avoid full scale war.

    Regardless, at this point, AQ had already decided to go to war with us. Killing UBL would have simply reduced their ability to do so.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    The 9/11 commission investigated those claims and concluded, "The Commission has found no credible evidence that this was so."
    did they now

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    The information from the OP isn't new. In fact, it's been common knowledge for years most noticeably as reported in the 9/11 Commission Report, Chap. 4.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How many people that defend Clintons decision to not risk hurting civilians also defend Obama's decision to use drones to take out possible terror targets?
    I can understand Clinton's decision not to go forward with a missile strike to kill OBL our over concern for collateral damage and the possibility of world-wide political backlash. I also agreed with Pres. Obama initial decision to use targeted/surgical drone strikes to go after AQ targets. I'm re-evaluating my opinion about the policy now for various reasons.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Here is a photo of Kandahar:

    photo1.jpg

    Does anyone honestly think he would have to destroy the whole city if he knew where OBL was?
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I am not certain what incidence Clinton is specifically describing in that speech. But I know he was offered more chances than that to end UBL, and passed on all of them.

    As for 300 innocent people...... I am..... doubtful.

    Mornin' CPW. That's Right.....like 10 times that he could have pulled the trigger on OBL. Plus don't forget this was after finding out AQ was responsible for the Attack on the USS Cole.


    According to Michael Scheuer, Clinton’s administration had “about 10 chances” to kill Bin Laden in 1998 and 1999 and passed on all of them because the intelligence supposedly wasn’t good enough. I’d also like to know more specifics of what Clinton says here about his best shot at OBL.

    Is he thinking, perhaps, of … Tarnak Farms? Tarnak Farms was located near Kandahar but it wasn’t a “little town.” It was Bin Laden’s training camp for terrorists. There may have been women and children there, but you could have cut a swath through AQ by bombing it at the time. In fact, the CIA might have had Osama himself onscreen from drone surveillance in 2000; drones weren’t equipped with missiles at the time, but an airstrike could have been called in.

    Clinton says at one point that, had he bombed Bin Laden with civilians around him, “I would have been no better than him.” Does he still feel that way? Does he think Obama is no better than Al Qaeda for trying to neutralize threats from terrorists who take civilians as their main targets? Does Hillary think that? It’s 3 a.m. and the phone is ringing.....snip~

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So Bill Clinton was also the President of NATO?
    I would be willing to bet that Clinton knew exactly what was happening. NATO is under our control and I have no problem at all with the decision to do so.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    No, they have fewer and more accurately placed missiles which results in fewer civilians in harms way. You obviously don't know how drones work.
    The Hellfire missile has been in operation since 1984. It's the same missile Obama uses now.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I would be willing to bet that Clinton knew exactly what was happening. NATO is under our control and I have no problem at all with the decision to do so.

    Mornin' Jack. He did. Make no mistake about that.

    Although.....its what else was going on with the D.O. and the CIA. From the NY Times.....do you think the left will still be all touchy feely and in need of emotional rescue after one of their own brought out even more trouble Bilbo had that led to Bush having the same problem?


    C.I.A. Unit on bin Laden Is Understaffed, a Senior Official Tells Lawmakers
    September 15, 2004 <<<<< !

    Mr. Scheuer, a 22-year veteran of the C.I.A., served as the first chief of the agency's bin Laden unit from 1996 until 1999.

    This year, with the publication of his book, "Imperial Hubris," which he wrote under the name Anonymous, Mr. Scheuer has become the C.I.A.'s leading in-house critic. After he granted news media interviews following the book's publication, the C.I.A. curbed his access to the press. He initially wrote the latest letter in May as an op-ed article. The C.I.A. refused to clear it for publication, but allowed him to send it as a letter to the Congressional oversight committees.

    In the letter, Mr. Scheuer provides a number of new details about the history of the C.I.A.'s counterterrorism operations before Sept. 11. For example, he said that the C.I.A.'s bin Laden unit was ordered to be disbanded in the spring of 1998, and that its operations were about to be folded into a small branch office when the C.I.A. director, George J. Tenet, found out about the proposed move. Mr. Tenet reversed the decision just before the August 1998 attacks on two American embassies in East Africa by Al Qaeda. Mr. Scheuer also said that in 1996, the C.I.A.'s bin Laden unit obtained detailed information about Al Qaeda's efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. He said that an intelligence report on the matter was initially suppressed within the C.I.A., and was later distributed in an abbreviated form.

    "Three officers of the agency's bin Laden cadre protested this decision in writing, and forced an internal review," Mr. Scheuer wrote. "It was only after this review that this report was provided in full to community leaders, analysts and policy makers.".....snip~

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/po...osition=&_r=1&


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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    It's hard to say now what could have happened. Maybe it could have prevented 9/11 or maybe it would have fueled the fire more. We can play 'what if' and go back and forth all day but it doesn't change anything. It is strange though that such a wanted man could be let go time and time again, I wonder how much his prominent Saudi family had to do with that, I know they disowned him and all but you never know.
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