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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How does one get so misguided as you? Schools? Young age?
    American schools and young age is responsible for the patronizing that sets presidents on a pedestal. It's what has you folks following guys like Bush into unjustified wars.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Dictators tend to become heavy handed but as far as heavy handed dictators... you think Saddam was that bad? Iraq was about the only place where women could go to school in the middle east. I think the other countries in that region were far worse than his. Not that I endorse that dick... but he was better than the Taliban countries and Saudi Arabia for sure. Don't know much about the country now but in-fighting under a dictator is usually suppressed rather quickly at least providing a modicum of stability in a ****ty country.
    It doesn't matter. The Bush folly must be defended at the expense of embarrassment.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Apologizing for a twice genocidal dictator that institutionalized rape.
    Mis characterization, criticizing failed foreign policy.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Yes, it does, since it's in the future. I don't think it has strengthened them, we've be there for decades, and will continue to be there as long as they have oil.
    Thanks for acknowledging what your buddy's have been denying forever.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's never a bad thing to get rid of a Hussein. They prove to be very destructive and inflict pain on the world, especially their own countries.
    Then why have we installed so many Hussein's in the world?
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I don't know anything about the institutionalized rape thing... haven't heard about that. But the whole middle east is awash in screwing over women with genital mutilation and severe oppression unlike anywhere else and women generally had it better in Iraq than their neighbors.

    the slaughters/genocides... I recall the them where it was pretty much due to self preservation after the gulf war where we obliterated his defenses and there was an uprising to take him down. Not an excuse for what he did but just a realization of what was going on.

    Saddam was our bitch... a bitch which we encouraged to invade Iran.

    He was a heavy handed dictator so torture seems to come with that territory. Idi Amin anyone?
    Ask him to provide you with the list of atrocities committed by right wing dictators we installed in Latin America after toppling left wing democracies. These guys have selective memories.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Iraq began its downward slide when Obama removed the troops. He felt that Iraq was stable and could look after itself. This was one of the greatest international political errors since Chamberlain claimed 'we have peace in our time'.
    No, Iraq began its downward slide when the US State Department interrupted the AIEA and ordered them out.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's astounding how little understanding some people have of Saddam Hussein now that the history of the region is being rewritten. Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Selective memory. Just one in a very long list of right wing dictators the US installed by force to replace left leaning democracies. Your defense of this **** is filthy!


    Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte, more commonly known as Augusto Pinochet (Spanish pronunciation: [auˈɣusto pinoˈtʃet];[note 1] 25 November 1915 – 10 December 2006), was dictator of Chile between 1973 and 1990 and Commander-in-Chief (Comandante en Jefe) of the Chilean Army from 1973 to 1998. He was also president of the Government Junta of Chile between 1973 and 1981.[2]

    Pinochet assumed power in Chile following a U.S.-backed coup d'état on 11 September 1973 that overthrew the elected socialist Unidad Popular government of President Salvador Allende and ended civilian rule. Several academics have stated that the support of the United States was crucial to the coup and the consolidation of power afterward.[3] Pinochet had been promoted to Commander-in-Chief of the Army by Allende on 23 August 1973, having been its General Chief of Staff since early 1972.[4] In December 1974, the ruling military junta appointed Pinochet President of Chile by joint decree, although not with the support of one of the coup's instigators, Air Force General Gustavo Leigh.[5]

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...tarian_regimes
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Dictator appeaser.
    US Government has appeased dictators forever, including Saddam Hussein until he decided he had a better idea for his oil.

    Over the last century, the United States government has often provided, and continues to provide today, financial assistance, arms, and technical support to numerous authoritarian regimes across the world. A variety of reasons have been provided to justify the apparent contradictions between support for dictators and the democratic ideals expressed in the American constitution.[1]

    Latin America

    Porfirio Díaz (Mexico) (1876–1911)[10]
    Institutional Revolutionary Party (Mexico) (1929–2000)[11]
    Juan Vicente Gómez (Venezuela) (1908–35)[12]
    Manuel Estrada Cabrera (Guatemala) (1898–1920)[13]
    Jorge Ubico (Guatemala) (1931–44)[13]
    Fulgencio Batista (Cuba) (1952–59)[14]
    Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic) (1930–61)[15]
    Efraín Ríos Montt and the rest of the military junta in Guatemala (1954-86)[16][17]
    Revolutionary Government Junta of El Salvador (1979–82)[18]
    Hugo Banzer (Bolivia) (1971–78, 1997–2001)[19]
    National Reorganization Process (Argentina) (1976–83)[20]
    Brazilian military government (1964–85)[21]
    Somoza family (Nicaragua) (1936–79)[22]
    François Duvalier (Haiti) (1957–71)[23]
    Jean-Claude Duvalier (Haiti) (1971–86)[23]
    Omar Torrijos (Panama) (1968–81)[24]
    Manuel Noriega (Panama) (1983–89)[24]
    Alfredo Stroessner (Paraguay) (1954–89)[25]
    Augusto Pinochet (Chile) (1973–90)[26]
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Why wouldn't it?
    The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
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