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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The rest of the post did.
    The person who quoted Clarke can provide details.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The person who quoted Clarke can provide details.
    Two presidents — one a hawkish Republican and the other a dovish Democrat — have mostly made things worse.

    Before George W. Bush's 2003 invasion, there was no terrorist presence in Iraq. By needlessly invading on false premises and in vain hope of installing a democracy, the U.S. destabilized the country and inspired a generation of enemies — at great cost in blood and treasure.

    Obama inherited that mess, and by failing to bring Maliki into line deepened the problem. Now, with Obama's position further weakened by his equivocal response to atrocities in Syria, he's left with a bigger mess to clean up, one that demands fresh thinking about policies of war and peace that have failed so badly.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...ates/10408671/
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    The glaring lesson of the war is that American ground invasions destabilize the Middle East, instead of stabilizing it. The 100,000 Iraqis who perished, the 4,500 American soldiers killed and the $1 trillion spent should have halted what Tufts University professor Daniel W. Drezner has called the "creeping militarization of American foreign policy." Instead, the civilian American institutions that failed us before Iraq have grown even weaker.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...e-east/274190/
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Two presidents — one a hawkish Republican and the other a dovish Democrat — have mostly made things worse.

    Before George W. Bush's 2003 invasion, there was no terrorist presence in Iraq. By needlessly invading on false premises and in vain hope of installing a democracy, the U.S. destabilized the country and inspired a generation of enemies — at great cost in blood and treasure.

    Obama inherited that mess, and by failing to bring Maliki into line deepened the problem. Now, with Obama's position further weakened by his equivocal response to atrocities in Syria, he's left with a bigger mess to clean up, one that demands fresh thinking about policies of war and peace that have failed so badly.

    Iraq exposes failed U.S. policy: Our view
    That's nice, but I have no idea why you posted this from quoting my post. It has nothing to do with what I posted.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Never a good thing to kill innocent civilians. If that's the TRUE reason he declined, good on him.
    This is the perfect example of why America is destined to lose this war against the radical Muslim world caliphate. As we wring our hands, and pull back from doing what is necessary to win, and crush the crazy line of thinking that they are in, we will lose.

    Monte has it in perfect, succinct language. When he states what he stated here he, and Bill Clinton was really saying that the 3000 deaths that happened on 9/11 were just fine with him as long as he didn't kill 300 Muslims in Kandahar. And progressives wonder why I say they make perfect dhimmi's.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's nice, but I have no idea why you posted this from quoting my post. It has nothing to do with what I posted.
    Actually, I don't see how you would read that and conclude that its nice. You question why Clinton didn't kill OBL, and are silent about the fact that not only neither did Bush, but Bush didn't CARE, spent no time thinking about him or pursuing him.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually, I don't see how you would read that and conclude that its nice. You question why Clinton didn't kill OBL, and are silent about the fact that not only neither did Bush, but Bush didn't CARE, spent no time thinking about him or pursuing him.
    For the last time, Bush has nothing to do with my question to MTATech. Thank you.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is the perfect example of why America is destined to lose this war against the radical Muslim world caliphate. As we wring our hands, and pull back from doing what is necessary to win, and crush the crazy line of thinking that they are in, we will lose.

    Monte has it in perfect, succinct language. When he states what he stated here he, and Bill Clinton was really saying that the 3000 deaths that happened on 9/11 were just fine with him as long as he didn't kill 300 Muslims in Kandahar. And progressives wonder why I say they make perfect dhimmi's.
    For Pete's sake, such hyperbole. You think Bill and I are just fine with the loss of American lives. That's it j wins the debate. Lazy!! Decades of support of militant Islamic groups is the problem. Do you want to point out that 4,500 lost American lives was just fine for Bush, so he could kill the man that threatened his daddy?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    For the last time, Bush has nothing to do with my question to MTATech. Thank you.
    That was the point.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That was the point.
    You keep bringing up Bush. I have no interest in debating what Bush did. I asked him a question about something he posted about Clinton, not Bush. He is perfectly capable of answering my question himself. There is no "point" in what you keep posting to me. Thank you.

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