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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post


    Bush fixed the terrorists by invading the wrong country. Typical Bush, what a moron!
    Bush was just following the Iraq Liberation Act that Clinton signed into law.

    Clinton had eight years to take care of the Hussein problem and he failed.

    Between 1990 to 9-11-01 who was considered the evilest man in the world ? Saddam Hussein. How many times did Saddam appear on South Park ?

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Bush was just following the Iraq Liberation Act that Clinton signed into law.

    Clinton had eight years to take care of the Hussein problem and he failed.

    Between 1990 to 9-11-01 who was considered the evilest man in the world ? Saddam Hussein. How many times did Saddam appear on South Park ?
    Hop, skip and jump around it all you want, but Bush invaded the wrong country! He lied about the reasons and then he ****ed up the war he started. Again, Bush is a ****ing moron!

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Oh no, nothing at all wrong with invading Iraq and getting rid of Saddam. Post 9/11, the rules changed. Now we couldn't sit back and wait, we needed preemptive action.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You seem to miss two points, one my criticisms of Obama's administration should clue you that I'm no liberal, and two, the comments are Mickey Herskowitz's, not the Kos! Mickey is a Jewish author, Houston Chronicle journalist and a long time Bush family friend.
    Perhaps, but according to the story, he was removed from the book project because they didn't like the way he was doing his job. Obviously, no chip on his shoulder as a result of that. Then throw in how he references Bush's "handlers" and it pretty clear what he's doing.

    As to cluing in to something, consider the fact Heskowitz's blather appeared in Kos, a pathetic Progressive website that spreads hate and lies about anyone who doesn't toe the company line, and nothing more needs to be said.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Nothing new here, anyone who read the 9-11 Commission Report already knows that Clinton had a chance to get Bin Laden but passed on it.

    Clinton's anti-terrorist policy was that terrorism was not a national security issue but a law enforcement issue.

    When G.W. Bush became POTUS he stuck with Clinton's failed terrorist polices. But after 9-11-01 Bush didn't spend eight years blaming Clinton failed couner terrorist policies.

    What the article left out, while blowing up an aspirin factory Clinton also blew up the Chinese Embassy.
    Actually, while this isn't new -- all of this was in the 9-11 Commission Report and also mentioned in Richard Clarke's book, "Against all Enemies," your spin in completely off-base. Clinton DID take terrorism seriously and requested to raise the intelligence budget, as the Congressional Record confirms. In fact, Richard Clarke, who worked in the WH for every president from Reagan to Bush, said that Clinton would have been more likely to prevent the 9/11 attacks than Bush.

    "In December 1999" said Clarke, "every day or every other day, the head of the FBI and the head of the CIA and the attorney general had to go to the White House and sit in a meeting and report on all the things they personally had done to stop the al Qaeda attack."

    He said the meetings forced Clinton officials to return to their agencies and "shake the trees" for evidence of the plot. In the months before Sept. 11, however, Clarke said Bush did nothing similar.

    If Bush had followed the Clinton model, said Clarke, "we might have found out in the White House . . . that there were al Qaeda operatives in the United States" training for the 9/11 attacks.
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    Within days of the US African embassy bombings, the US permanently stations two submarines, reportedly in the Indian Ocean, ready to hit al-Qaeda with cruise missiles on short notice. Missiles are fired from these subs later in the month in a failed attempt to assassinate bin Laden. Six to ten hours’ advance warning is now needed to review the decision, program the cruise missiles, and have them reach their target. However, in every rare opportunity when the possibility of attacking bin Laden occurs, CIA Director Tenet says the information is not reliable enough and the attack cannot go forward. [Washington Post, 12/19/2001; New York Times, 12/30/2001] At some point in 2000, the submarines are withdrawn, apparently because the Navy wants to use them for other purposes. Therefore, when the unmanned Predator spy plane flies over Afghanistan in late 2000 and identifies bin Laden, there is no way to capitalize on that opportunity. [Clarke, 2004, pp. 220-21] The Bush administration fails to resume the submarine patrol. Lacking any means to attack bin Laden, military plans to strike at him are no longer updated after March 2001. [9/11 Commission, 3/24/2004]
    One doesn't send submarines if one thinks "terrorism was not a national security issue but a law enforcement issue."
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Perhaps, but according to the story, he was removed from the book project because they didn't like the way he was doing his job. Obviously, no chip on his shoulder as a result of that. Then throw in how he references Bush's "handlers" and it pretty clear what he's doing.

    As to cluing in to something, consider the fact Heskowitz's blather appeared in Kos, a pathetic Progressive website that spreads hate and lies about anyone who doesn't toe the company line, and nothing more needs to be said.
    They switched biographers because of Mickey speaking about this to others. Not because his writing skills, it was near the end of it when they switched. You can chose not to believe him, but his statement along with PNAC's paper, a Bush cabinet meeting on invading Iraq two weeks into his presidency, his immideate use of 9/11 as impetus to invade Iraq, all connected draw a straight line, as I see it.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They switched biographers because of Mickey speaking about this to others. Not because his writing skills, it was near the end of it when they switched. You can chose not to believe him, but his statement along with PNAC's paper, a Bush cabinet meeting on invading Iraq two weeks into his presidency, his immideate use of 9/11 as impetus to invade Iraq, all connected draw a straight line, as I see it.
    So what if they talked about invading Iraq? It's called being prepared. What if something happened, other than 9/11, and the solution was to invade Iraq? And they were unprepared? What would the left be saying then? I can see it now...

    "Oh, these guys are idiots, they should have seen this coming." "Clinton always talked about removing Saddam, at least he would have beeen ready for this."

    Now, if you tell me they had priority plans to invade Canada, then I might think they were a little off. Plans to Invade Iraq? He's doing his job.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    It doesn't matter. At the time, Bin Laden was the head of the organization that attacked us on 9/11. You can't really say what the effect that would of had on the organization in terms of morale, if the top guy is taken out.
    How many times has the West killed the #1 guy in a terrorist organization?

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    So what if they talked about invading Iraq? It's called being prepared. What if something happened, other than 9/11, and the solution was to invade Iraq? And they were unprepared? What would the left be saying then? I can see it now...

    "Oh, these guys are idiots, they should have seen this coming." "Clinton always talked about removing Saddam, at least he would have beeen ready for this."

    Now, if you tell me they had priority plans to invade Canada, then I might think they were a little off. Plans to Invade Iraq? He's doing his job.
    Well this is certainly why America's power is declining. Abuse.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Actually, while this isn't new -- all of this was in the 9-11 Commission Report and also mentioned in Richard Clarke's book, "Against all Enemies," your spin in completely off-base. Clinton DID take terrorism seriously and requested to raise the intelligence budget, as the Congressional Record confirms. In fact, Richard Clarke, who worked in the WH for every president from Reagan to Bush, said that Clinton would have been more likely to prevent the 9/11 attacks than Bush.

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    What would have Clinton have done differently ?

    Start enforcing our immigration laws by deporting all illegal aliens ? All except one of the 9-11 terrorist were illegal aliens.

    Would Clinton have denounced political correctness and encouraged profiling of individuals ? The 9-11 Commission pointed out that it was political correctness that allowed the terrorist to board those planes on that morning on 9-11-01.

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