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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Here is a photo of Kandahar:

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    Does anyone honestly think he would have to destroy the whole city if he knew where OBL was?
    The picture shows a very densely populated city. I can understand why former Pres. Clinton was concerned about collateral damage. However, Kandahar is much too big to have been destroyed by a conventional missile strike. He'd have had to nuke the place Okinawa/Hiroshima-style to take out the entire city. That part of his statement I'd say was quite a bit far-fetched, but the rest I think warranted valid concern.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How many people that defend Clintons decision to not risk hurting civilians also defend Obama's decision to use drones to take out possible terror targets?
    You're trying to use widespread damage such as that illustrated in the above picture to make your point concerning the use of drone strikes. I don't think the two can be equated on the same destructive scale, i.e., high-yield warhead -vs- laser-guided missile designed for surgical strikes. However, from the standpoint of possibly killing innocent civilians, that does concern me. Nonetheless, I've continued to weigh my support for the authorization of drone strikes to destroy our enemies -vs- the potential lose of life to American/allied combat troops on the battlefield. In so doing, my conscious is usually very clear...most of the time.

    *Sidenote: And then there's the cost associated with placing combat troops in theater -vs- "send in the drones". I don't think there's any question which is cheaper.
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Bush also "got rid of" 5000 Americans and maimed 20,000 in his personal quest. Do you say the same for them?
    Whoa! I didn't hear about that! How did he kill all those people? A nuke?
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Whoa! I didn't hear about that! How did he kill all those people? A nuke?
    They died in Bush's invasion to get Saddam and you should know that. Treating all those American deaths and injuries lightly is sickening but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The picture shows a very densely populated city. I can understand why former Pres. Clinton was concerned about collateral damage. However, Kandahar is much too big to have been destroyed by a conventional missile strike. He'd have had to nuke the place Okinawa/Hiroshima-style to take out the entire city. That part of his statement I'd say was quite a bit far-fetched, but the rest I think warranted valid concern.



    You're trying to use widespread damage such as that illustrated in the above picture to make your point concerning the use of drone strikes. I don't think the two can be equated on the same destructive scale, i.e., high-yield warhead -vs- laser-guided missile designed for surgical strikes. However, from the standpoint of possibly killing innocent civilians, that does concern me. Nonetheless, I've continued to weigh my support for the authorization of drone strikes to destroy our enemies -vs- the potential lose of life to American/allied combat troops on the battlefield. In so doing, my conscious is usually very clear...most of the time.

    *Sidenote: And then there's the cost associated with placing combat troops in theater -vs- "send in the drones". I don't think there's any question which is cheaper.
    What is the kill rate of targets to civilians even using drones?

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Hmm. the Feds had warrants to search the compound. They were looking for stockpiles of weapons including the murder weapons, do you think Koresh was carrying them while he jogged? What DO you like about the rule of law? It appears that you don't want any part of it.
    Actually the feds were there to arrest Koresh. If they had arrested him alone, unarmed, while out jogging, it all would have gone much more smoothly, dont you think? Cuz...80 women and children on US soil...is that 'cautious'?
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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Bush also "got rid of" 5000 Americans and maimed 20,000 in his personal quest. Do you say the same for them?
    Obama has killed 2400 civilians, half of which are women and children and you celebrate that.

    Thats kinda the hypocrisy thing.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That maniac Koresh set that fire himself. He also shot and killed Federal officers.
    Have you ever seen the video of the attack?

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Hmmmm... while that first part is true, that second part doesn't seem to differentiate him from bin Laden as much as you think.
    The first part is true? Where did you get that from?

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Clinton would only have to hold that cigar upwind for a day at the most and the enemy would be scrambling to surrender.

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    Re: Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Bet he's not bragging about that right now?

    I don't think any of these Presidents mean to make mistakes, and there's no way of anticipating how crazy these terrorists are going to be.

    Spreading democracy is really a catch phrase for expanding capitalism, and it's not a cure all for every nation.
    Well, particularly not today, with the release of the minority report. Was great to see Lindsey Graham and John McCain doing their about face today in so harshly criticizing the Bush administrations torture program.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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