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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    it doesn't matter they wanted to make amendments to the bill as they should have the ability to do and reid stopped it. so they stopped reid. pretty simple if you ask me.
    "I'm taking my ball and going home" isn't a particularly engaging political narrative.
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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    "I'm taking my ball and going home" isn't a particularly engaging political narrative.
    Apparently, that's what both sides are doing with this bill.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Apparently, that's what both sides are doing with this bill.
    That's what I understand to be the case.

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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The teller can be wrong. That doesn't change the facts.
    And again, how do you know the teller is wrong, until you've heard the other side of the story. I'm sorry, but this sort of talk can go on forever. You tossed off a point and it was immediately broken. Quit trying to repair it and just admit to yourself you got it wrong the first time around.

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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    "I'm taking my ball and going home" isn't a particularly engaging political narrative.
    And yet the dems use it every time they are in the minority position. You may not find it engaging, but it's sometimes the last arrow in the quiver.

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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    I don't know. When I went to look at the bill tracker my eyes started to bleed trying to track everything down.
    Do you honestly think a party that is notorious for being extremely pro-business and pro-outsourcing going to put in anything in the bill to harm outsourcing?
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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) blocked Republicans from offering amendments to the bill, which is why they voted against advancing the bill.

    as long as harry reid continues his draconian rule of the senate bills will continue to get blocked. this is the majority of reason that these bills are being filibustered.
    is that reid refuses to allow republicans to submit amendments to the bill.

    so reid can sit on it and spin.

    So they voted against a good bill because they mean ol harry reid wouldn't let them undermine the intent of the bill?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Perhaps Im am naive but why do we really need to complicate our tax code by allowing deductions to begin with? All businesses have expenses and that is an expected part of having a business. It just seems that deductions are a means for businesses who better understand tax law to have a better advantage. Would it not make as much sense in the end to either remove deductions completely or even remove business taxes altogether and have the tax only applied to an individuals income from said business?

    Perhaps someone could explain to me the advantages of having corporate taxes and/or business deductions.
    The biggest advantage, of course, is because that is what stimulates businesses to give ****tons of money to politicians.

    Does it work? Well, just look at what the GOP is fighting for in the OP.
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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Please. Just... no.

    Republicans, mostly egged on by Newt Gingrich and his tactics, have spent years digging their partisan ditches and refusing to work with Democrats, who respond in kind. Midterm elections are coming up, and both sides are playing games. Neither side is particularly inclined to work with the other right now.

    Blaming it all on Reid (or any single individual) would be like blaming Eduardo da Silva for all the flopping in soccer.

    Thats a horrible example.

    Newt Gingrich worked with President Clinton and the result of that was some pretty positive economic and fiscal accomplishments.

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    Re: GOP blocks bill that would curb tax breaks for firms moving operations overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    GOP blocks tax hike on firms moving overseas - US News

    Has anyone heard the Republican side of the story?
    Yes. They do not believe in closing loopholes for those corporate/person tax dodgers. Today they just stuck to their text-book script that we should lower our corporate tax rates so that these corporate people don't run off. Their answer doesn't even address the bill whatsoever.
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