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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Ah, no. That is not really dangerous at all.

    Unlike, for example, the precedent that the President does not need to actually follow the written law, but is free to "borrow legislative power" and change it as he deems most convenient. For Cripes Sake, even Ed Schultz is saying that the President is abusing his position too much, setting too dangerous a precedent with his latest threats to go around Congress on immigration.

    What is dangerous is a precedent of a fully partisan Justice Department, of using the IRS to "reward your friends and punish your enemies". That is what is dangerous. And I look forward to liberals discovering that fact. Which I predict they will do in January of 2017.
    I have to agree with this whole heartily. The IRS has far too much power to be used as an instrument of ideology. It needs to be 100% neutral, or as much as is possible, to be fair to all tax payers regardless of ideology.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I have to agree with this whole heartily. The IRS has far too much power to be used as an instrument of ideology. It needs to be 100% neutral, or as much as is possible, to be fair to all tax payers regardless of ideology.
    I would change that to "the structure of governance generally". Polling officials who play fast and loose to give their team an edge up are just as criminal, and generally any public official or employee who uses the power granted to them by the people to seek to twist or bend the will of the people should be treated as what they are - people who threaten the very underpinning of our political system. R or D, throw the absolute book at them.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I have to agree with this whole heartily. The IRS has far too much power to be used as an instrument of ideology. It needs to be 100% neutral, or as much as is possible, to be fair to all tax payers regardless of ideology.
    The USA seems to be the only democracy where the citizens are fearful, and rightfully so, of their tax collectors. A strike might be in order.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Glad to, but you did ask!
    Others exercising their right to free speech does not make you a victim.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    So who's really playing the race / victim card here?

    Those that claim legitimate criticism as being racist?
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    Those that claim being accused of voicing legitimate criticism as being racist?
    Others exercising their free speech does not make you a victim.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    To declare someone a racist is indeed an attempt to silence them - it is saying that they do not belong in the public debate, to shame them and hound them and drive them from discourse.

    That they have failed is not an alibi.
    People have a right to call anyone a racist. Don't cry victim too much.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Glad to, but you did ask!
    But you didn't give me any real examples. You just blamed all political opposition on PC (an object), as if there are no legitimate political opinions besides yours, and you act like others having different opinions is an infringement on your rights.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    People have a right to call anyone a racist
    Sure. Just as people have a right to own a firearm. Misusing either is abusive and wrong.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would change that to "the structure of governance generally". Polling officials who play fast and loose to give their team an edge up are just as criminal, and generally any public official or employee who uses the power granted to them by the people to seek to twist or bend the will of the people should be treated as what they are - people who threaten the very underpinning of our political system. R or D, throw the absolute book at them.
    Not anything to disagree with here. Especially throwing the book at those that corrupt the system itself.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sure. Just as people have a right to own a firearm. Misusing either is abusive and wrong.
    What happened to having the right to speak ones opinion? You were SO concerned about that a minute ago, and now you claim others do not have that right. Are you sure you understand what free speech means?

    Why do you cry victim when others exercise their right to free speech?

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