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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I wonder as to the outcome of a strike of this nature. Has the government exceeded any restraint at all? Or would it crush such a strike to ensure it's supremacy over it's electorate? Hmm. Interesting thought experiments stem from the notion.
    I was curious about that also, and whether it would gain any traction. We can see what happened to that rancher in Nevada but would they do something similar if a large percentage of the population was involved?

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What happened to having the right to speak ones opinion? You were SO concerned about that a minute ago, and now you claim others do not have that right. Are you sure you understand what free speech means?

    Why do you cry victim when others exercise their right to free speech?
    As I'm often told, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of speech and so long as it's not the government imposing those consequences it's all good. Ask the Duck Dynasty or Mozilla dudes.

    Like I say, this is so not any kind of a big deal to me, however in a scandal about applying different standards to conservative groups and emails that supposedly (and conveniently) went poof, she certainly fueled the flame with her comments.
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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Another poor victim!!

    People, we've got to help these poor men. They can't deal with accusations. They're powerless. They're oppressed by others exercising their right to free speech. There's only one thing we can do. No free speech for their political opposition!!

    Won't you help these victims?? Tell their opposition to shut up!
    no - that is precisely what we are saying is the wrong thing to do.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As I'm often told, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of speech and so, so long as it's not the government imposing those consequences it's all good. Ask the Duck Dynasty or Mozilla dudes.
    Wait... you're NOT a victim of others exercising free speech? But what if they say something you don't like?? Well, then you're a victim, right?

    Get with the pity party! Play that victim card!

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If you cannot deal with accusation, that's your problem. People have the right to believe someone is a racist. Too bad.



    Oh, you're SO SCARED! You poor victim. How terrible of those people to speak their mind. What gives them the right?!
    Why does this sound familiar?????

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Another poor victim!!

    People, we've got to help these poor men. They can't deal with accusations. They're powerless. They're oppressed by others exercising their right to free speech. There's only one thing we can do. No free speech for their political opposition!!

    Won't you help these victims?? Tell their opposition to shut up!
    Nobody feels that free speech is threatened except yourself. What people are pointing to, in a free speech sort of way, are the many idiot claims and defamations that have little substance in reality. It's clearly directed at the lesser educated out there..

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Others exercising their free speech does not make you a victim.
    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As I'm often told, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of speech and so long as it's not the government imposing those consequences it's all good. Ask the Duck Dynasty or Mozilla dudes.

    Like I say, this is so not any kind of a big deal to me, however in a scandal about applying different standards to conservative groups and emails that supposedly (and conveniently) went poof, she certainly fueled the flame with her comments.
    X, I agree with your 'let the public sentiment determine the consequence', but really, have this been what we've been suffering under for the last few years from the public figures? I hardly think so.
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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    “So we don’t need to worry about alien terrorists. It’s our own crazies that will take us down.”
    This is an accurate statement.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no - that is precisely what we are saying is the wrong thing to do.
    Then accept they've the right to think someone is a racist. And if you cannot deal with the accusation, then it's your problem.

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    Re: IRS Retired Lerner calls conservatives "a**holes" and "crazies" in emails from IR

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    so a congressman can shout "You Lie" at a president during a special address to congress? that is an dangerous precedent you are supporting, especially if the same thing happens to future presidents.
    "Dangerous Precedent"? What is in danger, people's feelings?
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