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Ebola fears hit close to home

Dittohead not! said:
No, not quite as much, however:

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No one is exempt.
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But how many of those heterosexual people were drug users?

Let's put it this way....the wives of Magic Johnson and Arthur Ashe don't have it. Why not?
 
EnigmaO01 said:
But it made it's way to heterosexuals that were not needle sharing didn't it?
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Nobody I know. Why doesn't Magic Johnson's wife have it? Arthur Ashe's?

Gay people typically know LOTS of people that have died of AIDS. Heterosexual people almost always know no one.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Cue conspiracy theorists: They're bringing ebola patients to the US in order to experiment with creating a weaponized strain of Ebola virus.

Pass it on.
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And it's all Obama's fault.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
But it made it's way to heterosexuals that were not needle sharing didn't it?
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It only spread to the heterosexual population because we refused to quarantine.
 
jmotivator said:
Because who cares if there are 30,000 infected people? They're in another country! :roll:
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My point through out this thread is that if anyone is really giving a ****, we should be addressing those folks in the third world countries, rather than pretending this is all something new and is just now a threat because an American contracted it. Did you miss that point?
 
Summerwind said:
And it's all Obama's fault.
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Actually, that would be Clinton's fault. Nixon signed into EO an absolute ban on bio weapons, It stood until Clinton ended it. Obama could reinstate the ban but hasn't.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
You're right we don't live in 1919 anymore. Transportation of potential carriers is a lot faster now. A lot faster!
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And medical advancements have more than kept up with the advancements in transportation. As evidenced by the SARS scare and the H1N1 flu scare.
 
Summerwind said:
My point through out this thread is that if anyone is really giving a ****, we should be addressing those folks in the third world countries, rather than pretending this is all something new and is just now a threat because an American contracted it. Did you miss that point?
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No, but you missed the point. The initial post stated quite clearly that along with the dead American officials were looking at 30,000 potentially infected. You then derp your way into the thread to bleat about how one dead American isn't worth the "drama". You said something stupid in an attempt to make some inane point that your never quite made.
 
Summerwind said:
My point through out this thread is that if anyone is really giving a ****, we should be addressing those folks in the third world countries, rather than pretending this is all something new and is just now a threat because an American contracted it. Did you miss that point?
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Where have you been. We have been sending help and dealing with this in Africa for decades now. The CDC is very involved in all past Ebola outbreaks. It's getting major press attention right now because this outbreak isn't burning out as the others have, it's spreading.
 
Summerwind said:
And medical advancements have more than kept up with the advancements in transportation. As evidenced by the SARS scare and the H1N1 flu scare.
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Did we cure SARS ? H1N1 ?

No we didnt, its not about " medical advancements " its about isolating the carriers and proper quarantine procedures.

Why we've given wings to Ebola is beyond me.

Why we've even taken the risk to load up two people infected with the virus on a G3 is a mystery.

It makes zero sense.
 
Summerwind said:
And medical advancements have more than kept up with the advancements in transportation. As evidenced by the SARS scare and the H1N1 flu scare.
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Don't know much about the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic do you. Also don't seem to have a clue that the CDC has been working to crack Ebola for decades now with no result. WE still do not know the source for sure. We THINK it may be the monkeys, but we haven't yet been able to identify the original vector.
 
clownboy said:
Where have you been. We have been sending help and dealing with this in Africa for decades now. The CDC is very involved in all past Ebola outbreaks. It's getting major press attention right now because this outbreak isn't burning out as the others have, it's spreading.
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Sorry but since Ebola is in third world countries and CDC is more of a reporting and investigating organization, it solves very little. I'm discussing the big pharma type solutions that won't happen unless and until first world countries are dealing with Ebola. That is what SHOULD be happening regardless of the negative cost/benefit to the pharma.
 
Summerwind said:
Sorry but since Ebola is in third world countries and CDC is more of a reporting and investigating organization, it solves very little. I'm discussing the big pharma type solutions that won't happen unless and until first world countries are dealing with Ebola. That is what SHOULD be happening regardless of the negative cost/benefit to the pharma.
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Ebola can be prevented.

How about those who are predisposed to catching it STOP catching, slaughtering and EATING fruit bats.

And if we bankrupt Big Pharm so people can continue risky behavior who's going to deal with Bird Flu when it mutates into a airborne contagion ?
 
Summerwind said:
And it's all Obama's fault.
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You know whats scarier than Ebola ?

People like you vote.

If some how it spreads in the US because of the boneheaded decision to bring those two people back then YES, its Obama's Fault.
 
Summerwind said:
Sorry but since Ebola is in third world countries and CDC is more of a reporting and investigating organization, it solves very little. I'm discussing the big pharma type solutions that won't happen unless and until first world countries are dealing with Ebola. That is what SHOULD be happening regardless of the negative cost/benefit to the pharma.
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You don't know what you're talking about. NONE of what you just said is true in this issue.
 
Fenton said:
Did we cure SARS ? H1N1 ?

No we didnt, its not about " medical advancements " its about isolating the carriers and proper quarantine procedures.

Why we've given wings to Ebola is beyond me.

Why we've even taken the risk to load up two people infected with the virus on a G3 is a mystery.

It makes zero sense.
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Concentrating efforts locally for a vaccine is less a risk than waiting for it to get here from an infected traveler, which it eventually would.
 
grip said:
Concentrating efforts locally for a vaccine is less a risk than waiting for it to get here from an infected traveler, which it eventually would.
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Locally as in local to the outbreak, yes. That's not what Fenton is talking about.
 
clownboy said:
Locally as in local to the outbreak, yes. That's not what Fenton is talking about.
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I mean 'locally', as in Atlanta. The chances of it spreading are not much more from there, with protocols in place, than from a sicky coming here.

In the US, we have the labs and facilities to experiment with the active virus and possibly come up with some preventative medicine. We can't ship all of that equipment and resources to remote Africa so easily.
 
Summerwind said:
Yes, to assure it doesn't arrive here. Hence there's no need to panic or act like USA is in imminent danger of an Ebola epidemic. Hence why the OP is unnecessarily hyped and over-dramatic for the facts being presented.
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Scuttlebutt is that Obama has already signed off on bringing ebola to America. There's a Gulfstream jet that's going to pick up two Americans in West Africa who are infected with ebola and fly them back to American soil.

You would think bringing lice and scabbies across the border would have been enough.
 
grip said:
I mean 'locally', as in Atlanta. The chances of it spreading are not much more from there, with protocols in place, than from a sicky coming here.

In the US, we have the labs and facilities to experiment with the active virus and possibly come up with some preventative medicine. We can't ship all of that equipment and resources to remote Africa so easily.
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You think we need to have Ebola patients HERE to work on a " vaccine" ?

You think in 2014 we have no way to transmit virus cultures internationally ?

And is that the actual excuse they're using to justify bringing in Ebola infected dumbasses ( if you ask me ) into America ?

Or is that your opinion ?
 
Fenton said:
You think we need to have Ebola patients HERE to work on a " vaccine" ?

You think in 2014 we have no way to transmit virus cultures internationally ?

And is that the actual excuse they're using to justify bringing in Ebola infected dumbasses ( if you ask me ) into America ?

Or is that your opinion ?
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Oh, that's a lot safer, just transport the infected fluids over here instead. :roll:
 
grip said:
Oh, that's a lot safer, just transport the infected fluids over here instead. :roll:
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Lol.....

We're DOING THAT NOW !

Two massive virus cultures in the form of two dumbasses who put themselves in harms way.
 
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