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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    While dangerous illnesses could be carried across the border, illegally or just on any freakin airline flight, ebola isn't a very good candidate. It's so lethal that it tends to limit its own spread. Kills the host before it can spread. Nasty little bug. Extremely high mortality rate. Hope they figure out a vaccine, but how do you volunteer to test something like that? "Ok, here's the vaccine. Now here's an injection of ebola to see if it works!" Yeah, probably not.
    The incubation period of Ebola is 2 to 21 days according to the CDC. What limits the spread of the virus is not that it kills quickly, it's that it is not known to spread through aerosols. The only known spread in humans is through contact with a sick person. There is a known case of Ebola spreading in a research facility among chimpanzees through aerosol, though.
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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    One American dies in another country, having contracted it in another country and it's looking like a bad movie???? I'm sure that many in those countries have been exposed by him and others, otherwise he wouldn't have been exposed. One more person isn't newsworthy. Wow, there's that drama qu... again.
    And how many other people were on the plane with him? That is your "drama". But we are too stupid to close our borders.

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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

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    The problem with the disease spreading too much and reemerging is that every time a new host contracts the disease it's genetically modified from person to person. The more often that happens, the higher likelihood of it going airborne, where even small particles inhaled can transmit the disease into the bloodstream.

    The more they can quarantine and contain the spread, the less likely it can reach more genetically diverse populations, environmental conditions and other animal species. Other species are known to become infected and spread the disease including primates, antelope and porcupine, which means pigs could become a natural host. Fruit bats are a known 'reservoir' for the Ebola virus.

    The reality is it could easily become worse than any movie.

    Could Ebola now be airborne? New research shows lethal virus can be spread from pigs to monkeys without contact | Mail Online
    I agree with the premise, but to panic now is juvenile, just as it was with SARS and the bird flu. We (first world countries) don't live in 1919 anymore, and IF everyone is SOOOOOO worried about these things then why aren't we doing more to fund the research for solutions, and then accept the cost lost as we give the benefit to those in second and third world countries.

    As you point out, Ebola isn't new. The concern isn't new, and yet we seem way too pleased with ourselves for ignoring it while it's in 2nd and 3rd world countries and then PANIC when one person in one 2nd world country becomes ill and dies because he contracted in yet a different 2nd world country just because his home is in the USA.

    That's what's ridiculous. IF it's truly that much of a concern, it should already be a top priority to stop it in it's tracks in Africa, but that's too costly since most of Africa wouldn't be able to afford the meds since pharma has no motivation besides profit.
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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Do you even read what YOU write?
    Yes, do you remember recent history wherein both of the "legitimate" concerns turned out to be no concern at all really?
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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I agree with the premise, but to panic now is juvenile, just as it was with SARS and the bird flu. We (first world countries) don't live in 1919 anymore, and IF everyone is SOOOOOO worried about these things then why aren't we doing more to fund the research for solutions, and then accept the cost lost as we give the benefit to those in second and third world countries.

    As you point out, Ebola isn't new. The concern isn't new, and yet we seem way too pleased with ourselves for ignoring it while it's in 2nd and 3rd world countries and then PANIC when one person in one 2nd world country becomes ill and dies because he contracted in yet a different 2nd world country.

    That's what's ridiculous. IF it's truly that much of a concern, it should already be a top priority to stop it in it's tracks in Africa, but that's too costly since most of Africa wouldn't be able to afford the meds since pharma has no motivation besides profit.
    To panic now is juvenile? Oh ok, I guess we should wait till it's a real problem and too late to contain?

    I promise, if this thing goes airborne, it'll be the worst thing the world has ever seen.
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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Ebola outbreak kills an American - CNN.com

    Patrick Sawyer had one stop to make before heading home to Minnesota to celebrate his daughters' birthdays: a conference in Lagos, Nigeria.

    But when he landed in Lagos, Sawyer, 40, collapsed getting off the plane. He had been infected with Ebola in Liberia, where he worked as a top government official in the Liberian Ministry of Finance.

    Sawyer was isolated at a local Nigerian hospital on July 20. He died five days later.

    Sawyer's wife Decontee Sawyer, lives in Coon Rapids, Minnesota, with the couple's three young daughters, 5-year-old Eva, 4-year-old Mia, and Bella, who is 1. The Sawyers are naturalized citizens; their daughters were born in the United States.

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    They're looking for upwards of 30,000 who may have had contact with this man. This is starting to look like a bad movie.
    I saw this yesterday on CNN. It was helpful to know this stuff.

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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The incubation period of Ebola is 2 to 21 days according to the CDC. What limits the spread of the virus is not that it kills quickly, it's that it is not known to spread through aerosols. The only known spread in humans is through contact with a sick person. There is a known case of Ebola spreading in a research facility among chimpanzees through aerosol, though.
    I was just reading about Ebola last night after reading the latest death toll. Perhaps I was dreaming as I cannot find the article now but I read that a lab who is currently working on a couple potential vaccines believe they had an incident of air born contamination. They had two sets of test animals who were not in contact with one another (except air) and one apparently caught Ebola from the other. If this is true it could have very dire consequences, it could mean that Ebola has the potential to mutate to an air born pathogen.

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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    And how many other people were on the plane with him? That is your "drama". But we are too stupid to close our borders.
    Same with the SARS folks but in the end was much ado about nothing. Like I said, get out of the movie mindset, it's for drama queens.
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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    To panic now is juvenile? Oh ok, I guess we should wait till it's a real problem and too late to contain?

    I promise, if this thing goes airborne, it'll be the worst thing the world has ever seen.
    Apparently you didn't read the common sense solution presented that would make more sense than panicking. Why does this not surprise me?
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    Re: Ebola fears hit close to home

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Apparently you didn't read the common sense solution presented that would make more sense than panicking. Why does this not surprise me?
    Apparently, you didn't just see the new CDC: Level 3 Alert announced on CNN, warning people not to travel to West Africa. And they're sending 50 more personal to the area to help contain the outbreak.

    I'm not advocating panic anyway, only awareness. This particular strain has a higher survival rate so far at 60%, meaning that humans are developing some antibody resistance. Nature doesn't always create diseases that we can't become immune too.
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