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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, with the help of the Democrats, what was the vote on that bill and what did we learn from that legislation

    Tripled the Federal debt that was 50% of GDP, what is that percentage today

    Income equality didn't explode, all ships rose

    That is a lie, I posted the numbers of Federal Employees yesterday and you ignored it.

    Total Government Employment Since 1962

    Stop buying what you are told and do some research. You have no idea what the 80's were like but buy what you are told, the reality is quite different.

    Income equality didn't explode, all ships rose


    Reagan disproportionately taxed the poor and middle class, but the economic growth of the 1980′s did little help them. Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled


    That is a lie, I posted the numbers of Federal Employees yesterday and you ignored it.
    Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes



    On a side note, look who was the smallest government spender. Not that guy that republicans say is out of control with government spending !!!!!

    Do your research on Department of Veterans Affairs

    Department of Veterans Affairs Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Department of Veterans Affairs Act of 1988 (Pub.L. 100527) changed the former Veterans Administration, an independent government agency established in 1930, primarily at that time to see to needs of World War I, into a Cabinet-level Department of Veterans Affairs. It was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan on October 25, 1988, but actually came into effect under the term of his successor, George H. W. Bush, on March 15, 1989.

    This bill passed into law over the objection of some of President Reagan's fellow Republicans, who were committed to preventing the U.S. federal government from expanding further. Many Republicans along with most Democrats ultimately supported it on the basis that it was really more of a reorganization than an expansion of government as the new department was in reality going to be doing very few things that the former Veterans Administration had not already been doing. There was the further consideration that military veterans constitute a large and powerful voting bloc and could easily be offended at the perceived slight that opposition to the bill might have implied.
    Today that department has a 90 billion dollar budget and over 300,000 employees. So much for that belief that government can't create jobs

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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Would love to be positive but with the lack of leadership and the Obama agenda that is hard to do. Good positive pro growth economic policies will lead to optimism
    And who do you think can do that?
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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's not being negative to point out what a terrible job Obama and the democrats have done when in charge. It's almost as destructive to sit and do nothing as they try to fundamentally change our country. That's why I have a problem with many of the republicans also.

    You better take a look at the democrats if you are talking about being negative. They say we are such a terrible country, the world hates us, we are horrible to the poor, we go at the world with a clenched fist, our military are terrorists, etc... it goes on and on. Makes the republicans look like they are riding unicorns and farting rainbows.
    I don't know who "they" are, but do you have any negativity towards congress The original post here was about continuous job growth since 2009. I remain optimistic that this. will continue. Make sure you get out there in 2016 and vote.
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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I don't know who "they" are, but do you have any negativity towards congress The original post here was about continuous job growth since 2009. I remain optimistic that this. will continue. Make sure you get out there in 2016 and vote.
    Not in 2014?
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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Not in 2014?
    Sure, by all means.
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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes



    On a side note, look who was the smallest government spender. Not that guy that republicans say is out of control with government spending !!!!!
    Do your research on Department of Veterans Affairs
    Today that department has a 90 billion dollar budget and over 300,000 employees. So much for that belief that government can't create jobs
    This is for the really, really, low information voter. The absolute moron voter.
    First, it's rate of increase, not actual spending. Bloated, disgusting, spending. You would think Obama is really putting on the brakes, and keeping spending down. But no. Prior to Obama, the biggest deficits were around $400 billion, Odummy has been deficit spending over $1TRILLION per year.

    And jobs? We don't want government jobs. We want private sector jobs. Government jobs suck for the economy, literally. The government makes no money, it sucks money out of our pockets. Bigger government, more government jobs, more money it sucks out of our pockets. So yeah, great job taking our money. More low information stuff.
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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I don't know who "they" are, but do you have any negativity towards congress The original post here was about continuous job growth since 2009. I remain optimistic that this. will continue. Make sure you get out there in 2016 and vote.
    You don't remember who said that they want to fundamentally change this country? Well, it wasn't the Germans in WWII, it wasn't Al Qaeda, not even Iran.
    And really, having job growth is an absolute given. That is doing nothing. That's like someone dropping a crumb on your plate and saying they fed you today. It's a really low bar.
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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
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    First, it's rate of increase, not actual spending....
    I don't disagree that we are spending too much, but the fact that the rate of increase of spending under Obama are smaller, still indicates that it is untrue that he is worse than other presidents about overspending.

    If you want less government spending, then why in the world would you complain that the rate of spending increases under Obama is lower than Reagan, either Bush, or Clinton? Seems to me that you may have a legitimate grip against Obama, but a much bigger gripe against those other presidents.

    And why in the world would we prefer to elect another republican, when spending under republican presidents has historically increased faster than under democrats? If you really care about restraining federal spending, then you should vote republican for congress, and democrat for POTUS as historically that has been the combination that has resulted in the lowest rate of spending increases.
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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Unfortunately, the ENTIRE point to this thread is semi-useless since the 4.0% number that came out last week is obviously not the actual GDP increase.

    And judging by the government's track record, that number will bear little resemblance to the final number when it is released in a few months.

    We will not know how sharply the bounce back will be for many weeks to come.

    It clearly did 'bounce back'...but considering the last GDP numbers started at +0.1% and ended(?) at -2.1%...how much the 'bounce' is is anyone's guess...literally.


    All of high leads me to ask...

    ...why not wait until the final number is known before you release it?

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    Re: U.S. economy bounces back sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
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    All of high leads me to ask...

    ...why not wait until the final number is known before you release it?
    Probably political pressure.
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