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    Appeals court upholds decision overturning Virginia’s same-sex marriage ban

    One more state challenge has been denied. Virginia is the next in the ever-shortening list of states where gays may not marry.

    Appeals court upholds decision overturning Virginia

    "A federal appeals court on Monday struck down Virginia’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, saying that withholding the fundamental right to marry from gay couples is a new form of “segregation” that the Constitution cannot abide.

    The 2-to-1 decision by a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, based in Richmond, upheld a lower court’s decision and extended an extraordinary winning streak in the federal courts for proponents of same-sex marriage.

    "Legal challenges to state bans filed systematically nationwide have prevailed in every test since the Supreme Court in June 2013 struck down part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage as only between a man and a woman."

    Two federal appeals courts have now said the bans are unconstitutional. The Supreme Court probably will have to make the final determination and could consider the issue as soon as next year."


    IMO, state governors and legislators should stop wasting their taxpayer money on challenging SSM....the handwriting has been on the wall for some time now.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    I also read somewhere today, though I don't remember where, that North Carolina is no longer going to defend their ban on SSM. Don't really know what that means except they aren't wasting tax payers' money. Are they going to recognize SSM or just not do anything til the ultimate USSC rulings???

    Ah, here's the link.

    North Carolina says it will no longer defend gay marriage ban in court - LA Times

    At a news conference Monday afternoon, Atty. Gen. Roy Cooper said he had made the decision because the appeals court ruling "predicts our law will be struck down."

    "Simply put, it is time to stop making arguments we will lose and instead move forward, knowing that the ultimate resolution will likely come from the U.S. Supreme Court," Cooper said.
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I also read somewhere today, though I don't remember where, that North Carolina is no longer going to defend their ban on SSM. Don't really know what that means except they aren't wasting tax payers' money. Are they going to recognize SSM or just not do anything til the ultimate USSC rulings???

    Ah, here's the link.

    North Carolina says it will no longer defend gay marriage ban in court - LA Times
    A word to the wise: Don't count your USSC rulings before they are hatched. A majority that allows certain employers to prevent their employees' insurance from covering medical procedures and medications based on the employer's religious beliefs is certainly not a slam-dunk to uphold the constitutional protections of SSM.

    I certainly have my fingers crossed that they do, and eliminate all this state-by-state bigotry once and for all... but I am not at all confident in this particular SCOTUS.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    One more state challenge has been denied. Virginia is the next in the ever-shortening list of states where gays may not marry.

    Appeals court upholds decision overturning Virginia

    "A federal appeals court on Monday struck down Virginia’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, saying that withholding the fundamental right to marry from gay couples is a new form of “segregation” that the Constitution cannot abide.

    The 2-to-1 decision by a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, based in Richmond, upheld a lower court’s decision and extended an extraordinary winning streak in the federal courts for proponents of same-sex marriage.

    "Legal challenges to state bans filed systematically nationwide have prevailed in every test since the Supreme Court in June 2013 struck down part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage as only between a man and a woman."

    Two federal appeals courts have now said the bans are unconstitutional. The Supreme Court probably will have to make the final determination and could consider the issue as soon as next year."


    IMO, state governors and legislators should stop wasting their taxpayer money on challenging SSM....the handwriting has been on the wall for some time now.

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    'Virginia’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage'

    So, voters in Virginia voted to try and stop a consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying another consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying purely on the basis of some backwards, pathetic, dinosaur-like bigotry?

    Judging by this ridiculousness then most Virginians must also be against antibiotics, electricity and telephones.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    A word to the wise: Don't count your USSC rulings before they are hatched. A majority that allows certain employers to prevent their employees' insurance from covering medical procedures and medications based on the employer's religious beliefs is certainly not a slam-dunk to uphold the constitutional protections of SSM.

    I certainly have my fingers crossed that they do, and eliminate all this state-by-state bigotry once and for all... but I am not at all confident in this particular SCOTUS.
    You'll get no argument from me about that. Though I'm not today going to let it spoil the victory in another battle. The war is yet to be determined. Hence why I wondered if they were simply going to wait, or whether they (NoCarolina) were going to recognize SSM. My guess.. they're just going to wait, it's a small victory since nothing is actually changing there yet.
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'Virginia’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage'

    So, voters in Virginia voted to try and stop a consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying another consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying purely on the basis of some backwards, pathetic, dinosaur-like bigotry?

    Judging by this ridiculousness then most Virginians must also be against antibiotics, electricity and telephones.
    You must be a really young kiddie to think that it's "dinosaur like" bigotry to believe a marriage doesn't require one of each sex in order to be legitimate. There weren't any dinosaurs in the year 2001. Only in the last 14 years has the Oxymoron of homosexual marriage been practiced anywhere in the modern world. It's not that people don't want homosexuals to marry. It's that homosexuals don't seem interested in having sex with legitimate potential marriage partners.

    I suppose soon enough homosexuals will be playing husband and wife all across the nation, though. I don't know why but it seems that any society that encourages rampant homosexuality doesn't last long after that happens. When in Rome, huh? Now if we lower the age of sexual consent for boys to be molested by men, we'll be taking another glorious step down the path of Rome. First things first, though. Got to make the oxymoron of homosexual marriage the law of the land in all 50 states in order to argue that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality first. Priorities. Must have priorities.
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    You must be a really young kiddie to think that it's "dinosaur like" bigotry to believe a marriage doesn't require one of each sex in order to be legitimate. There weren't any dinosaurs in the year 2001. Only in the last 14 years has the Oxymoron of homosexual marriage been practiced anywhere in the modern world. It's not that people don't want homosexuals to marry. It's that homosexuals don't seem interested in having sex with legitimate potential marriage partners.

    I suppose soon enough homosexuals will be playing husband and wife all across the nation, though. I don't know why but it seems that any society that encourages rampant homosexuality doesn't last long after that happens. When in Rome, huh? Now if we lower the age of sexual consent for boys to be molested by men, we'll be taking another glorious step down the path of Rome. First things first, though. Got to make the oxymoron of homosexual marriage the law of the land in all 50 states in order to argue that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality first. Priorities. Must have priorities.
    Rome fell due to constant civil war, terrible politics that makes even George W. Bush or Obama look like a saint, warmongering, too much land not enough military, horrid treatment of neighbors and NON-CITIZENS, etc.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Virginia, Mother of Presidents. Died just alittle.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'Virginia’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage'

    So, voters in Virginia voted to try and stop a consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying another consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying purely on the basis of some backwards, pathetic, dinosaur-like bigotry?

    Judging by this ridiculousness then most Virginians must also be against antibiotics, electricity and telephones.
    What you describe regarding the Virginia voters might be an illustration of "the tyranny of the majority".

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'Virginia’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage'

    So, voters in Virginia voted to try and stop a consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying another consenting adult they will probably never know from marrying purely on the basis of some backwards, pathetic, dinosaur-like bigotry?

    Judging by this ridiculousness then most Virginians must also be against antibiotics, electricity and telephones.
    Even Barrack Obama was against SSM all up until just a few years ago so maybe these over-the-top characterizations are just a tad misplaced? The world is changing at a pace that some are having a difficult time keeping up with. Hating them for it is no better than them hating the change... and probably worse since the changes are supposedly rooted in tolerance and acceptance.

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