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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Better question: why is any of this relevant to marriage?

    It isn't. Who makes what kind of sexual advances towards whom is completely irrelevant to government sanction of a marriage contract
    Not really, not when one of the more prominent arguments about "normalizing homosexuality through SSM acceptance" is that men fear being approached by other men, but as noted don't seem to think that's too much of a burden for women (otherwise so many men wouldn't attempt to approach women).
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No. There is no moral equivalency here.

    The pro-equality argument is morally superior. The anti-equality crowd is fighting against the rights of a minority group based solely on their personal disapproval of the minority's actions. This is antithetical to individual liberty.
    Whatever, dude.

    Gays what their relationships to be viewed with the same moral standing as straight relationships and if I was gay, I'd probably want that too. When you break it down to it's root, that's what it is all about.

    Deal with it.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Don't you think the bigger problem with "marriage" in the U.S. is lack of it, and/or divorce, among straight and normal heterosexuals? It's always puzzled me a bit - there is this gigantic log in the eye of the straight community regarding single motherhood and divorce, but the time and effort is expended keeping gays FROM marrying. Weird...
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Divorce is a problem but not the same kind of problem the deconstruction of it is. It's foolish to argue that one problem is justification for adding more problems.
    People disgustingly and rightfully talk about that Liz Taylor, those gays are just one step behind her, making a mockery of marriage. Do you advocate what Liz Taylor has done!? This country's laws are based on age old traditions and morality, and if those gays openly and continuously disregard those laws, what is the common man supposed to think about the sanctity of marriage!

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    I used Liz Taylor, because you know, since Papa Bull's morality comes from the 1960s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I think you don't know what you're talking about. In both Rome and Greece, homosexuality was rampant. Of course the Bible talks of Sodom and Gomorrah which were so vile that even angels were molested but I don't suppose you'd be wanting to hear about that or believing it. I'll just tell you for a fact that homosexuals do recruit as much as possible. My brother is a homosexual and I've lived in homosexual communities for years during different periods of my life both in New Orleans and Atlanta's Midtown. I know what I'm talking about and recruitment is one of the biggest, if not THE biggest dirty little secret of the homosexual community.
    Or 1690s ...


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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Whatever, dude.

    Gays what their relationships to be viewed with the same moral standing as straight relationships and if I was gay, I'd probably want that too. When you break it down to it's root, that's what it is all about.

    Deal with it.
    Are you saying "gays want to be accepted" is a reason for the government of the United States to impose a gender-based distinction in a contract between two private individuals?

    is that all it takes to justify a restriction on individual freedom?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Well you acknowledge that women have to suffer it and yet demand the men are too fragile to have deal with it. I guess you're right, you aren't being negative about women, you're calling men pussies, all of 'em.
    That's what you're saying, not what I said. You should be the one admitting you're a sexist.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are you saying "gays want to be accepted" is a reason for the government of the United States to impose a gender-based distinction in a contract between two private individuals?

    is that all it takes to justify a restriction on individual freedom?
    You're reducing it so you can avoid the point.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Whatever, dude.

    Gays what their relationships to be viewed with the same moral standing as straight relationships and if I was gay, I'd probably want that too. When you break it down to it's root, that's what it is all about.

    Deal with it.
    I don't know why it's so hard to admit. You're dead right.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That's what you're saying, not what I said. You should be the one admitting you're a sexist.
    Nope, just paying attention to your poutrage about the poor wittle men who might be approached by a homosexual man, WAH! Bunch of babies if they can't handle it, which is apparently what you think. Since I'm all for the normalization of homosexuality, I must think men will be able to handle it.

    Nice try at "I'm rubber", but a huge fail.
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're reducing it so you can avoid the point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I don't know why it's so hard to admit. You're dead right.
    Do either of you really care what strangers think of your relationship?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Nope, just paying attention to your poutrage about the poor wittle men who might be approached by a homosexual man, WAH! Bunch of babies if they can't handle it, which is apparently what you think. Since I'm all for the normalization of homosexuality, I must think men will be able to handle it.

    Nice try at "I'm rubber", but a huge fail.
    You're not paying attention. You're engaging in strawman argumentation.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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