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Thread: Appeals court upholds decision overturning Virginia’s same-sex marriage ban

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

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    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You don't care if I had sex with you?

    It's a brave new world out there.
    well that is a very subjective term for you-- not for me considering I'm not gay or bi-sexual.

    Why do you feel I should feel the same way?

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I agree with you there. However, short of government getting out of marriage (which we know they won't do) the legalization of SSM is inevitable so the GOP should stop fighting it so more pressing matter can be fixed.
    What you're looking for is a mob mentality - that has nothing to do with your morals but rather what the mod tells you do do (the PC mob).

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Homosexuality is normal in the sense that despite there being a same sex partner they live their lives like anyone else. Yes, there are those that are flamboyant, however, the majority are not.

    Now I understand YOUR religion may not condone it, however to that I say don't involve yourself with a homosexual partner and you'll be fine.

    Gays are not going to go away and if people would stop making such a big deal out of SSM, I would bet a weeks salary that the flamboyancy would decrease exponentially.

    BTW This is the most civil conversation I've had with you regarding the subject. I like it that way and would like to keep it going in that direction. I tip my hat off to you there sir.
    I suppose biologically speaking homosexuality is conduet to the "hate the human spices crowd and the special interest crowed and has nothing to do with "homosexuality" has a lifestyle but rather a means to insert some sort or radial "social justice" that is demanded to be accepted by the mainstream of society.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I agree with you there. However, short of government getting out of marriage (which we know they won't do) the legalization of SSM is inevitable so the GOP should stop fighting it so more pressing matter can be fixed.
    Ha, The GOP? well, I'm certainly not a member of the GOP and had falling out with their establishment about a decade go..

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    One more state challenge has been denied. Virginia is the next in the ever-shortening list of states where gays may not marry.

    Appeals court upholds decision overturning Virginia

    "A federal appeals court on Monday struck down Virginia’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, saying that withholding the fundamental right to marry from gay couples is a new form of “segregation” that the Constitution cannot abide.

    The 2-to-1 decision by a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, based in Richmond, upheld a lower court’s decision and extended an extraordinary winning streak in the federal courts for proponents of same-sex marriage.

    "Legal challenges to state bans filed systematically nationwide have prevailed in every test since the Supreme Court in June 2013 struck down part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage as only between a man and a woman."

    Two federal appeals courts have now said the bans are unconstitutional. The Supreme Court probably will have to make the final determination and could consider the issue as soon as next year."


    IMO, state governors and legislators should stop wasting their taxpayer money on challenging SSM....the handwriting has been on the wall for some time now.

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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Over and over and over again the courts tell us that mere moral disapproval isn't enough to uphold these kinds of laws. You'd think this would be obvious. You'd think the party of "small government" and "personal liberty" would agree with this principle. You'd think that party would say what they say about other issues of freedom "I don't approve of what you're doing but I'd die for your right to do it."

    But they don't.



    The GOP will continue to be on the wrong (Losing.)side of many issues in the USA until, about 30 years or so from now, it is reduced to a minor, regional party when massive demographic change hits it full force.

    Not my problem. But I have warned them many times.




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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I think you don't know what you're talking about. In both Rome and Greece, homosexuality was rampant. Of course the Bible talks of Sodom and Gomorrah which were so vile that even angels were molested but I don't suppose you'd be wanting to hear about that or believing it. I'll just tell you for a fact that homosexuals do recruit as much as possible. My brother is a homosexual and I've lived in homosexual communities for years during different periods of my life both in New Orleans and Atlanta's Midtown. I know what I'm talking about and recruitment is one of the biggest, if not THE biggest dirty little secret of the homosexual community.
    Homosexuality in Sodom or Gomorrah is a myth, not supported by anything other than the moronic belief that attempted rape as an exhibition of power over male visitors is an indicator of sexuality. It isn't.
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    What's relevant is that moral decay and decadence does spread and eat up a society. I gave you examples of civilizations eaten up with it.

    Why do you think it has to be any different than when straight men chase women in order to satisfy you that it is a regular practice among a large segment of homosexuals? Homosexuals have been trying to seduce straight men probably forever and it's absurd to pretend that doesn't happen all the time. Like I said, the real crux of this whole "marriage equivalency" crusade is purely for the sake of normalizing homosexuality (moral equivalency) in order to facilitate recruitment of potential sexual partners.

    You don't have to believe it and it'll never matter in the long run because what's going to happen will happen whether you or anyone else can face the ugly truth about it or not. Suffice to say homosexuals will never be thronging to get married. Only in those rare situations when it will actually be a tax benefit for a couple will that happen. It just makes no sense for them and most homosexuals I've known have always thought marriage was a really stupid idea for any but "breeders".
    Morality is subjective so you can't really prove "moral decay" (or decadence), only moral change in a majority and differences in morality.

    You gave examples of civilizations that fell due to their own greed and power struggles (politically speaking) and apathy, along with a couple that were destroyed by a natural disaster in the area (not exactly something that can be prevented by having "perfect morality" even if there were such a thing).
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    If the legal contract is marriage I fully expect gender distinctions to be made since marriage isn't "a couple of something". It is one of the male and one of the female joined together. It's not two male fittings awkwardly taped together to try to complete a circuit. Or two female fittings with some sort of adapter to make them work in a way they weren't supposed to.
    This is just plain wrong. It is a "couple of something". It is a couple of people joined together in a relationship. Legally, it is a document that is used to establish legal kinship, that of "spouses". No one should or does check the "equipment" of two people getting married to make sure they "fit right" because that has absolutely nothing to do with marriage, not legally.
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    Re: Virginia falls! Courts deny ban on SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That's silly. Governed absolutely can define marriage as the male and female union that nature and our government intended. Besides. No one was ever barred from marriage based on their own sex.
    They are barred from marrying a person of a certain sex based on their sex, just as when interracial marriage bans were in place, people were barred from marrying a person of a certain race based on their race.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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