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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I have already stated my case.

    You don't agree - fine.

    I doubt either of us is going to change the other's mind.

    What is the point in going on and on about it?

    I am done on this for now.


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    I dont agree because I'm more looking at the interests of the business, etc. Not people that clearly act in very negative ways and will be possibly protected by the law but not other consequences (which they may deserve).

    I dont think we're that far apart, but to me, the slippery slope..if it occured... would end up harming the league even more.....I think it's better for society when individuals/private parties are able to make individual decisions and choices rather being dictated to by law or policy. (As long as it is not discriminatory) Following guidelines and policies yes, dictated by? No. IMO the opposite slope leads to 'zero tolerance' policies which I am against.
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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    For the $$$. See how long that marriage lasts after he gets booted from the NFL.
    Oh, it's not just the money--it's the celebrity and the glam too. She needs therapy. (Of course, I said this about Hillary Clinton too after the Lewinsky humiliation.) For some people, the money or the power or the security is that important.

    But this man has the self-control of a toddler. He knocked this woman out...could have killed her. He didn't even seem to much care that she was unconscious and exposed. I can't imagine how he acts at home, and now that I've seen how he treats his woman, I hope he doesn't have any pets.

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Fair enough. My main argument in this thread is that the culture of "never hitting a woman" is short sighted and does more harm than good. I'm convinced that women are getting more aggressive and if men continue to do nothing but take it or restrain women that are getting aggressive the situation will only get worse. There is nothing wrong with defending yourself, and all this calculation people expect people to do is not at all realistic. Whatever though, I'm tired of this thread now.
    And none of that is relevant in the recent video.

    Unless, of course, you support beating women.
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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    And none of that is relevant in the recent video.

    Unless, of course, you support beating women.
    Would we even be having this discussion if she was a man?

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Fair enough. My main argument in this thread is that the culture of "never hitting a woman" is short sighted and does more harm than good. I'm convinced that women are getting more aggressive and if men continue to do nothing but take it or restrain women that are getting aggressive the situation will only get worse. There is nothing wrong with defending yourself, and all this calculation people expect people to do is not at all realistic. Whatever though, I'm tired of this thread now.
    I get what you're saying about defending yourself, and I also believe that a woman should keep her hands to herself also. However I wonder who you are trying to convince that what he did went beyond self defense?

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Would we even be having this discussion if she was a man?
    But she wasn't.
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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    But she wasn't.
    Put a penis on it and call it male. Does it change the situation? If so, why?

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Would we even be having this discussion if she was a man?
    Of course.

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    First drunk driving is ok, and now you say knocking a woman out is ok.

    Quite the twisted place you live in.

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    Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Put a penis on it and call it male. Does it change the situation? If so, why?
    We are not talking about men, but women.

    Sounds as if you want to throw out gender if any altercation occurs, and support full on fisticuffs.

    So if a woman slaps you, do you agree with responding immediately with closed fist blows?
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