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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

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    You're assuming she started it. Do you have evidence of that?

    Watch the video before you embarrass yourself here.
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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You seriously don't get it at all. I'm 5'10 215 and in similar shape to Ray...


    It was worth reading this entire thread to read this.

    If this is the case, there is a job opening for you in Baltimore.

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The league is a business, and it has a right to protect its image.

    Playing pro football is not a right. It's a privilege.
    I did not say they were not within their legal rights to do it - I simply stated that I don't like it.

    You disagree - fine.

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    It's good that Rice was released. He acted like a bully and was caught. Too many cameras today to act like a fool in public.

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And an employer has the right to fire employees for any legal reason in an at-will state....and for cause in other states. This may well fall under 'cause,' esp. if he gets charged.

    Edit: sorry, didnt process the last part of your post earlier. Concur but also still see the League having vested business and image interests.
    I am not saying the league acted illegally...I am quite sure that the labor agreement stipulated that they can do exactly what they are doing.

    I simply do not personally believe that any large corporation has any business dictating the private lives of it's employees...no matter how disgusting their actions.

    Were I the player's union head there is no way (imo) I would have given them that power in the labor agreement.


    The rest is not directed at you per se - just a general statement.


    Also, the NFL does not even own the Ravens. They are a seperately owned franchise.

    Only the owner of that team - imo - should have the power to suspend a player for his/her off field activities if they could make a case that those activities were hurting the profits of the franchise.


    Additionally, what if the owner of the team AND the fans had no problem with something a player did (granted, it would probably not be this case)? What if they were prepared to forgive and forget OR they thought it was none of their business? They have no say but the league - who do not own the team - can arbitrarily state what a player can and cannot do.

    That is not the bottom line any longer - that is a moral issue.

    I mean, where does this end?

    Will the NFL eventually not allow it's players to go to certain bars? To gamble? To date women that have criminal records or who have 'iffy' backgrounds? To be involved with certain religions? To engage in S&M (or other unusual) sex with consenting adults? TO have political opinions that the majority of Americans do not agree with? The list could be endless.


    IMO, it should be none of the NFL League Office's business what a player does in his/her spare time. NONE.
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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post


    It was worth reading this entire thread to read this.

    If this is the case, there is a job opening for you in Baltimore.
    Lol. I don't have the athletic ability that ray has. I'm also too old to be a running back at 31.

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It's good that Rice was released. He acted like a bully and was caught. Too many cameras today to act like a fool in public.
    How was he acting like a bully?

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Tell that to Donte Stallworth. Or Josh Brent. Both of whom drove under the influence and killed a person. There was still room in the NFL for them.

    Ray Rice will most likely back next year with a team that won't care about the controversy.

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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am not saying the league acted illegally...I am quite sure that the labor agreement stipulated that they can do exactly what they are doing.

    I simply do not personally believe that any large corporation has any business dictating the private lives of it's employees...no matter how disgusting their actions.

    Were I the player's union head there is no way (imo) I would have given them that power in the labor agreement.


    Also, the NFL does not even own the Ravens. They are a seperately owned franchise.

    Only the owner of that team - imo - should have the power to suspend a player for his/her off field activities if they could make a case that those activities were hurting the profits of the franchise.
    Well, I'm not sure how a 'big corp' with a board of directors varies that much from a single business owner with respect to this issue, because I see them with the same concerns: the bottom line and the reputation of their business. It is a judgement call for them....which I think individuals and for something like this, also corps...reasonably have the ability & choice to make.
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    Re: Raven ray Rice suspended 2 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lol. I don't have the athletic ability that ray has. I'm also too old to be a running back at 31.
    I figured you were talking about size and weight. I am sure you are in great shape; I didn't mean this comment to be a slap. Don't feel bad, I am about as athletic as a snail.

    What I found funny is that so many people in great shape and who are good athletes themselves have no idea at the difference between themselves and a professional football player like Ray Rice.

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