Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy
32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
Also, it is not the "word alone" of the State Department. Rebel leaders even tweeted of their "victory" after the plane was hit (acknowledging that they fired on a plane, and that a plane was shot down) in the immediate aftermath of the crash. They then deleted their tweets once they saw what exactly they had shot down.
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Plus, since the rebels have no air assets, why would the Ukrainian forces have AA missiles in the area.
Also, if Kiev did it and were caught, support for them would probably end. And since they seem to be winning the war then why take such a colossal chance?
I am not saying they did not do it - I don't know. But logic tells me that the rebels did it by mistake and that Kiev couldn't be happier (especially considering no Ukrainian's were onboard MH17).
But I could be wrong.
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'What kind of sick and twisted toy factory is this?'
'We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too much, the best of us is washed away.'
"Better to be dead and cool, than alive and uncool."
Well one of the theories is that there were Kiev fighters/aircraft near the Malaysian plane and the inexperienced rebels fired at these Kiev planes but missed.Also, if Kiev did it and were caught, support for them would probably end. And since they seem to be winning the war so why take such a colossal chance?
Well then explain why it is Kiev that is preventing an investigation? It is their aggression that is making it impossible for the international investigators to get to the site.I am not saying they did not do it - I don't know. But logic tells me that the rebels did it by mistake and that Kiev couldn't be happier (especially considering no Ukrainian's were inboard MH17).
Ukrainian forces have taken back control over many border crossings that were siezed by rebels. They have been prevented from regaining control over all portions of the border because of the remoteness of some border areas, limited Ukranianian capabilities, other tactical considerations, and Russian interference (heavy shelling from the Russian side in support of rebels near the border).
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-regain control of border areas when possible
-isolate rebels in the interior
The priority for the Ukrainian government must be Ukrainian lives. As a result, considerations about the crash site and persons already deceased whom they did not harm, come second.
I just dont think it is fair to expect the Ukrainians to spend Ukrainian lives so investigators can have easier access to the site.