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U.S. Evacuates Embassy In Libya Amid Clashes

The fighting is starting to wind down so that means law and order is returning. It may not be the law and order we want it to be but its a lot better than if these Islamic fanatics would have won instead.
1700 killed there this week. ISIL took control of large gas fields ( forget where) killing Syrian troops.
Not winding down at all, just knocked off the coverage because of gaza. Crucifictions. etc.

The "Islamic fanatics" are winning/stalemating Syria ,with the Assad regime ( which is holding on). and not the elusive Syrian moderates"
 
Actually Syria is stabilizing so its the opposite of what youre advocating. If we had gone in there and took out Assad the place would be swarming with Al Queda fanatics by now.

and ISIS are who exactly?
 
At least he was willing to say what he was willing to sacrifice American kids for. His buddies, both in the ME and Big Oil.

The main arguments made to the American people were:

1. Preservation of the balance of power in the Persian Gulf (promotes stability)
2. Assuring that no hostile regional power could hold hostage a significant portion of the world's oil supply (a longstanding vital U.S. interest)
3. Opposing unprovoked international aggression

IMO, all of those arguments, especially the first two, were stronger than the murky "responsibility to protect" doctrine that was cited for U.S.-led regime change in Libya in the absence of a credible post-regime change plan for addressing sectarian risks and promoting stable governance and the lack of compelling U.S. interests in Libya.
 
Obama saw how easy it was to abandon our border with Mexico he figured he can cut and run from any place in the world where his policies have failed.

You can notice the pattern by now. He cut and ran from Iraq, Afghanistan, Mexico and now Libya. Syria will be next.
 
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Obama needs to be removed immediately...

No man in good standing would allow the world to go to **** right in front of their face...
 
Get the impeachment thingy going.
 
Obama has already cut and ran and abandoned the Constitution.

If global tensions escalate I would not be shocked to see a temporary military coup..

Obama is absolutely useless...

I'm not talking about martial law or a dictatorship - I'm talking about having him removed for the rest of his term.

Obama can go back to Chicago or wherever he feels comfortable..... He is not fit to lead this nation or the world...

This goes beyond democrat or republican - it is not political...
 
The middle east has become a haven for anarchy..

Thanks first black president and progressives too - you get a golf clap...

And you clowns have the audacity to talk about "human rights"............

Good go over there and try to negotiate peace...............
 
If global tensions escalate I would not be shocked to see a temporary military coup..

Obama is absolutely useless...

I'm not talking about martial law or a dictatorship - I'm talking about having him removed for the rest of his term.

Obama can go back to Chicago or wherever he feels comfortable..... He is not fit to lead this nation or the world...

This goes beyond democrat or republican - it is not political...

Wouldn't matter who was the president the American population doesn't want anymore wars and your politicians are playing the game. I cant help but think of Black hawk down and despite the job that had to be done the mere sight of coffins brought back memories of Vietnam and the US cut and run.
 
Mornin Thom, from the opening of the embassy there in 2006 we never had to evacuate our embassy. Gaddafi provided a stability that has been shaky sense his death, same with Mubarak, Hussein and Assad.

Yep, its called damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
Wouldn't matter who was the president the American population doesn't want anymore wars and your politicians are playing the game. I cant help but think of Black hawk down and despite the job that had to be done the mere sight of coffins brought back memories of Vietnam and the US cut and run.

Really? because an individual such as myself wouldn't just run away nor would a good general.

Now Obama gets charged with treason..

Let Holder defend him....
 
Well they didnt in Libya I believe France took the lead on that one. Also worth pointing out that its not in our best interest to allow civil wars to ravage countries while we sit around and do nothing. See Syria.

Actually, the US helped ravage Syria, Libya, Egypt, and other countries. Its called the Arab Spring.
 
If global tensions escalate I would not be shocked to see a temporary military coup..

Obama is absolutely useless...

I'm not talking about martial law or a dictatorship - I'm talking about having him removed for the rest of his term.

Obama can go back to Chicago or wherever he feels comfortable..... He is not fit to lead this nation or the world...

This goes beyond democrat or republican - it is not political...

Obama feared a military coups back in 2012. That's why Marines were ordered to remove the bolts from their rifles during Obama's second inauguration parade and why U.S. Marines or other military units were unable to respond to the shooter at the Washington Navy Yard, all small arms ammunition has been removed from military installations around the DC area.

Obama does need to resign or be removed from office. If the Democrat Party won't do what's best for America and Congress won't do their job of oversight of the Executive branch of government, then it's the military who took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and Obama isn't above the Constitution but Obama may disagree.

The only thing left is the Constitution and the original intent of the Second Amendment.
 
Really? because an individual such as myself wouldn't just run away nor would a good general.

Now Obama gets charged with treason..

Let Holder defend him....

It's not about "running away" its about public support. Now I don't live in the US but have been recently and have many friends/family in the US. From what I gather people are against any kind of conflict that puts US lives in danger and costs money. Obama got involved in Libya and let other allies take the lead, tried to get involved in Syria and didn't receive much support from either side. Don't agree with the current administrations choices however I understand how politics works and lets be honest they were not offered any alternatives from across the aisle on either conflict. The media were against Libya but yet when nothing was done in Syria or Ukraine they attacked and on the other side you have a percentage of people who are against any kind of foreign intervention. Mixed messages and partisan politics is what is hurting the US image not the current president and it will be the same 4 years from now.
 
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Actually, the US helped ravage Syria, Libya, Egypt, and other countries. Its called the Arab Spring.

Helped how. How did the US help ravage Egypt?
 
Obama feared a military coups back in 2012. That's why Marines were ordered to remove the bolts from their rifles during Obama's second inauguration parade and why U.S. Marines or other military units were unable to respond to the shooter at the Washington Navy Yard, all small arms ammunition has been removed from military installations around the DC area.

Obama does need to resign or be removed from office. If the Democrat Party won't do what's best for America and Congress won't do their job of oversight of the Executive branch of government, then it's the military who took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and Obama isn't above the Constitution but Obama may disagree.

The only thing left is the Constitution and the original intent of the Second Amendment.

This is NOT a matter of politics - this is a matter of national security...

Coup him...


He is out of is ****ing mind here...
 
1700 killed there this week. ISIL took control of large gas fields ( forget where) killing Syrian troops.
Not winding down at all, just knocked off the coverage because of gaza. Crucifictions. etc.

The "Islamic fanatics" are winning/stalemating Syria ,with the Assad regime ( which is holding on). and not the elusive Syrian moderates"
In that case we should send a billion Dollars worth of weapons to Assad now.

Though I am against intervention, if we have to support a side we ought to support the dictator rather than the terrorists.
 
If global tensions escalate I would not be shocked to see a temporary military coup..

Obama is absolutely useless...

I'm not talking about martial law or a dictatorship - I'm talking about having him removed for the rest of his term.

Obama can go back to Chicago or wherever he feels comfortable..... He is not fit to lead this nation or the world...

This goes beyond democrat or republican - it is not political...
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Yes it is. Have you really convinced yourself your ridiculously partisan post is not political or are you just saying that to try and give your post some sort of credibility it lacks on its own merit?
 
In that case we should send a billion Dollars worth of weapons to Assad now.

Though I am against intervention, if we have to support a side we ought to support the dictator rather than the terrorists.
Assad is the least worse choice, considering the "moderate Syrians" cannot exist by themselves
 
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