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POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

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Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com

According to a CNN/ORC International poll released Friday, 33 percent of Americans think the president should be impeached and removed from office, compared with 65 percent who say they don’t support impeachment. Fifty-seven percent of Republicans say they support impeaching Obama, compared with just 35 percent of independent voters and 13 percent of Democrats.



When asked about when Congress should attempt to impeach a president, 79 percent of Americans said it should be used only if there is evidence of a serious crime — such as treason or bribery. Eighteen percent said impeachment could appropriately be used to registered dissatisfaction with White House policies.


The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.
 
Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com




The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.

Just a political stunt by the Republicans which include Conservatives/Tea Party. They haven't done anything they said they would do over the last 6 years or so.

They were gonna appeal ACA... Didn't do it
They were gonna de-fund ACA... They didn't do it.
They were gonna secure our borders in 2000... They didn't do it.

All they do is blame everyone else for their failures.
 
Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com

The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.

There are alway those for and against a politician. Why, there were people out there that wanted to keep Nixon in office.

But I wonder if impeachment shouldn't be a legal decision rather than by popular majority.
 
Although those numbers are rather high, they're not entirely out of step with what voters have said about previous administrations. From your link:

The numbers generally fall in line with CNN results from the past two presidencies — 30 percent of Americans support impeachment for former President George W. Bush in 2006 and 29 percent support impeachment for former President Bill Clinton in 1998.

More than anything, this demonstrates a general lack of political savvy among the general populace.
 
It means very little. Clinton only lost his licence to practice law, nothing else.
 
If we could impeach every single elected official in Washington DC I'd be all for it. Flush every single one of them and start fresh with all new people.

I see no reason to single one person out when they ALL suck and they ALL need to be replaced ASAP.

Anyone who thinks the problems we face today are the result of one man, or one party, is simply blind to the overall reality of the last few decades.

We need a paradigm shift in Washington DC.

Simply bouncing back and forth between Dems and Reps isn't going to solve anything, and in fact history is proving to us each day that it's just making things worse.

If you wanna start a witch hunt against one, start it against them all. Otherwise it's just a waste of time, and will solve nothing.
 
If we could impeach every single elected official in Washington DC I'd be all for it. Flush every single one of them and start fresh with all new people.

I see no reason to single one person out when they ALL suck and they ALL need to be replaced ASAP.

Anyone who thinks the problems we face today are the result of one man, or one party, is simply blind to the overall reality of the last few decades.

We need a paradigm shift in Washington DC.

Simply bouncing back and forth between Dems and Reps isn't going to solve anything, and in fact history is proving to us each day that it's just making things worse.

If you wanna start a witch hunt against one, start it against them all. Otherwise it's just a waste of time, and will solve nothing.
One of the single worst ideas I've seen on this site, and that's saying something.
 
Yeah....because things are going so well within the USofA.....:roll:
And because we have some issues, let's get rid of everyone. It's a lazy and populist plan that appeals to the politically braindead.
 
Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com




The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.

So? It is not a miracle that there are Republicans who dislike him so much that they would love to see him impeached but it says nothing about the legality of such a move.

In 2007 there was a USA today/Gallup opinion poll in which the question was asked:

"As you may know, impeachment is the first step in the constitutional process for removing a president from office, in which possible crimes are investigated and charges are made. Do you think there is or is not justification for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush at this time?"

36% said yes, impeach Bush, 62% said no. 3% were unsure.

Bush Administration

In 2006 it was 30% for impeachment to 69 against so it is nothing weird or strange to happen.
 
So? It is not a miracle that there are Republicans who dislike him so much that they would love to see him impeached but it says nothing about the legality of such a move.

In 2007 there was a USA today/Gallup opinion poll in which the question was asked:



36% said yes, impeach Bush, 62% said no. 3% were unsure.

Bush Administration

In 2006 it was 30% for impeachment to 69 against so it is nothing weird or strange to happen.

It is an indication of the increasing polarization of the electorate and the lengths to which some will go just to carry out their ideological or political agenda regardless of what the Constitution says.
 
And because we have some issues, let's get rid of everyone. It's a lazy and populist plan that appeals to the politically braindead.


Insanity: repeating the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.
 
If we could impeach every single elected official in Washington DC I'd be all for it. Flush every single one of them and start fresh with all new people.

I see no reason to single one person out when they ALL suck and they ALL need to be replaced ASAP.

Anyone who thinks the problems we face today are the result of one man, or one party, is simply blind to the overall reality of the last few decades.

We need a paradigm shift in Washington DC.

Simply bouncing back and forth between Dems and Reps isn't going to solve anything, and in fact history is proving to us each day that it's just making things worse.

If you wanna start a witch hunt against one, start it against them all. Otherwise it's just a waste of time, and will solve nothing.


If every elected official in Washington is that bad, then it clearly shows that the politicians themselves are not the problem. Therefore replacing them all wouldn't do much. If they are all that bad it shows that the system is broken. The system which brings these people to power and the system through which they govern once in power. We need to reform the system, and then the improvement in quality of our politicians would follow. Without that, the same system, would just reproduce the same results and a similar quality politician.
 
But I wonder if impeachment shouldn't be a legal decision rather than by popular majority.
Shouldn't voting for a President be a legal decision too? :roll:
 
Insanity: repeating the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.
How profound. Hey, look! Abuse by some Priests in the Catholic church! Let's put all priests in Prison! That's the amount of sense that your turd of a plan makes. Sorry if I'm the bearer of bad news.
 
Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com

The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.

Based on your words it appears you didn't even read the article. Here's some help.

It's not just the right, 35% of the "radicalized" independents polled think Obama should be impeached as well. That's more than the total percent of those who would seek impeachment.

The reason? Obama thinks its OK to pick up his pen rather than seek consensus, because after all, that's how this whole system of government works. You can just have what you want and then blame others when you don't get it, unless of course you're a democrat.

Instead of capitulating like the dems did with Iraq, and then whining about their own actions, the Republicans are holding their ground.

Try looking at the whole picture. I know its difficult, but try. People are unhappy with Obama, period.

Forty-one percent of voters approve of how Obama is handling health care, while 54 percent disapprove. That’s a bit of an improvement from last month’s 41-56 percent rating. It also makes health care his best issue, topping the job performance ratings he receives on the economy (40-57 percent), foreign policy (36-56 percent) and immigration (34-58 percent).

Fox News Poll: Voters say Obama exceeded authority, but oppose impeachment | Fox News

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove (see trends).

The latest figures include 22% who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 42% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20.

Anyway, there's no need to impeach Obama, voters everywhere can be heard at the polls in November.

Perhaps problematic for Democrats is that 65% of GOP voters and 55% of voters not affiliated with either major party are more likely to vote this year, compared to 53% of those in the president’s party. But that could change as the election gets nearer.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
 
It is an indication of the increasing polarization of the electorate and the lengths to which some will go just to carry out their ideological or political agenda regardless of what the Constitution says.

That's exactly why the majority of people no longer like or trust Obama.
 
Well no. Or what do you mean with legal.
Well the President was selected by the people through the voting process; now if that President is being considered to be doing unethical things shouldn't the people use their representatives to speak for them to get him removed?

In other words why use a judge to make a legal decision to determine that? Where's the system of checks and balances for that judge?
 
How profound. Hey, look! Abuse by some Priests in the Catholic church! Let's put all priests in Prison! That's the amount of sense that your turd of a plan makes. Sorry if I'm the bearer of bad news.

For decades, and most likely centuries, the Catholic Church as a whole knew about the pedophile priests. The Catholic Church went out of their way to cover it all up, ignore it, keep it silent, and generally refuse to deal with it. So in many ways, for some time in the recent past, the entire Catholic Church as a whole was in fact guilty of many things disgusting.


You just keep on re-electing the same incumbents over and over again and we'll see how things progress.

History is proving that's not a good idea, but we'll see.
Meanwhile people in general are getting more and more aggravated and distrusting of our government.

Of course they always try to blame "the other" guys. The one's they didn't vote for. Meanwhile they pressed a lever for some guy who's been in DC for decades and decades and become a millionaire because of it. But hey....he's not the problem, it all the other "crooks" you other people are electing.


It's a vicious circle and the very definition of insanity.

The current two-party system guarantees the insanity will continue.
And the sheeple will continue to repeat their mistakes, and continue to complain and gripe about everything that's wrong.
All the while never looking inward and seeing that they are the problem. They keep putting the same people back in power and expecting different results.
 
For decades, and most likely centuries, the Catholic Church as a whole knew about the pedophile priests. The Catholic Church went out of their way to cover it all up, ignore it, keep it silent, and generally refuse to deal with it. So in many ways, for some time in the recent past, the entire Catholic Church as a whole was in fact guilty of many things disgusting.


You just keep on re-electing the same incumbents over and over again and we'll see how things progress.

History is proving that's not a good idea, but we'll see.
Meanwhile people in general are getting more and more aggravated and distrusting of our government.

Of course they always try to blame "the other" guys. The one's they didn't vote for. Meanwhile they pressed a lever for some guy who's been in DC for decades and decades and become a millionaire because of it. But hey....he's not the problem, it all the other "crooks" you other people are electing.


It's a vicious circle and the very definition of insanity.

The current two-party system guarantees the insanity will continue.
And the sheeple will continue to repeat their mistakes, and continue to complain and gripe about everything that's wrong.
All the while never looking inward and seeing that they are the problem. They keep putting the same people back in power and expecting different results.
:yawn: An exact rehashing of your previous posts. Most adults realize that solving complex problems usually entails more than "New People!"
 
If we could impeach every single elected official in Washington DC I'd be all for it. Flush every single one of them and start fresh with all new people.

I see no reason to single one person out when they ALL suck and they ALL need to be replaced ASAP.

Anyone who thinks the problems we face today are the result of one man, or one party, is simply blind to the overall reality of the last few decades.

We need a paradigm shift in Washington DC.

Simply bouncing back and forth between Dems and Reps isn't going to solve anything, and in fact history is proving to us each day that it's just making things worse.

If you wanna start a witch hunt against one, start it against them all. Otherwise it's just a waste of time, and will solve nothing.

if we want to make the system work better, we need to eliminate gerrymandering nationwide. my own personal opinion is that we should also have a national discussion about eliminating political parties, too, but that one is almost as unlikely to gain any foothold.
 
if we want to make the system work better, we need to eliminate gerrymandering nationwide. my own personal opinion is that we should also have a national discussion about eliminating political parties, too, but that one is almost as unlikely to gain any foothold.

Just getting most people to even CONSIDER voting for somebody who is not a Rep or a Dem is like trying to turn sand into diamonds.

I fear nothing is going to change for a looooooooooooooooooong time.
 
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Based on your words it appears you didn't even read the article.

Yes, I read it. Yes, I characterized it accurately. Those Republicans who favor impeachment are nearly twice as many as the percentage of the so called independents you cite. And that is not even getting into the accuracy of the label of "independents".
 
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I would have been for impeachment by 2011. However, this is the second term and while Team Obama is taking this impeachment seriously, the way I read this, it's the only way the GOP have even a ghost of a chance at the WH by sowing enough seeds of discredit about the Democrats around.....enough at least to poison the already less than dense American mind into voting for an infinitely less than capable Republican politician.

However now that I mention it, neither party has higher road on this. Cycle 2016 has all the earmarks of an election where you vote for the candidate who will do the least possible damage to this already damaged country.

Politics is already a dystopian occupation.

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