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POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

Dragonfly said:
Your choice of words tells us a lot.

(and that's not a very positive thing I can assure you)
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Using the IRS to harass or mitigate your political opposition is evil. Picking and choosing which laws you want to enforce and ignoring others is evil. Attempting to pass a comprehensive immigration bill passing out amnesty for illegal immigration before securing our borders is evil. This administration does not respect the law.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Yes.....as I recall, democrats started threatening to impeach Bush the moment he was re-elected.
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I think impeachment talk is now acceptable. It wasn't even thought of before Nixon and after Nixon resigned it went away until Clinton when the Republicans revived it. I think every president from now on will be threaten with talk of impeachment, this is just the climate of the times in Washington D.C.
 
APACHERAT said:
You are aware the majority of Obama's appointments were incompetent at the positions they were appointed to.

The entire Obama administration is incompetent.

Why were they approved by Congress ? If they didn't approve of Obama's nominations they would have been called racist.
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Your viewpoint is laughable. The people you call "incompetent" are incompetent in your eyes because they don't hold your narrow political viewpoint.

APACHERAT said:
Look at who the prior Secretary of Homeland Security was and todays Sec. of DHS. :lamo "The borders are secured" :2rofll:
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Sorry, DHS was established to head-off terrorism, not to keep kids, who surrender to authorities the minute they cross the boarder.

The current head of DHS is Jeh Johnson. The first Sec'y of DHS was Tom Ridge, who raised the alert color every time Bush's poll numbers dropped. He was followed by Michael Chertoff and Janet Napolitano.

APACHERAT said:
Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State and John Kerry. No world leaders listened to these two clowns. Just look at the Middle East today.

Eric Holder as the Attorney General. :eek: Holder has a racial chip on his shoulder the size of a water melon.

Obama's national security adviser is Susan Rice. :screwy
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Again, they are incompetent in your eyes because they don't hold share your politics. What is ironic is that you denounce Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry when "Mushroom Clouds" Condoleezza Rice -- who hyped invading Iraq -- a country that didn't need to be invaded and Colin L. Powell who told false statements to the U.N. about Iraqi plans that turned out to be 100% wrong -- all while Clinton and Kerry were saying invading Iraq was a bad idea.

Eric Holder is far more appealing than Alberto R. Gonzales, who prosecuted Democratic politicians because they were Democrats and was soft on Republicans. He also fired Assistant Attorney Generals who refused to do his bidding on these matters.

APACHERAT said:
Do we need to bring up the IRS ? :thinking
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Yes, let's bring up the IRS.
4 Facts You Might Not Have Known About The IRS Scandal : It's All Politics : NPR
1. Most of the groups flagged by the IRS for extra scrutiny didn't actually have to apply for tax-exempt status.
2. Even if the right criteria had been used, 80 percent of the targeted groups would have warranted extra scrutiny.
3. Those intrusive questions that drew widespread criticism? Some of them are actually on the IRS application form.
4. Nonconservative groups got extra scrutiny, too. A lot of them.
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ObamacareFail said:
Using the IRS to harass or mitigate your political opposition is evil. Picking and choosing which laws you want to enforce and ignoring others is evil. Attempting to pass a comprehensive immigration bill passing out amnesty for illegal immigration before securing our borders is evil. This administration does not respect the law.
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True, if it was harassment, which it wasn't.

4 Facts You Might Not Have Known About The IRS Scandal : It's All Politics : NPR
1. Most of the groups flagged by the IRS for extra scrutiny didn't actually have to apply for tax-exempt status.
2. Even if the right criteria had been used, 80 percent of the targeted groups would have warranted extra scrutiny.
3. Those intrusive questions that drew widespread criticism? Some of them are actually on the IRS application form.
4. Nonconservative groups got extra scrutiny, too. A lot of them.
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a351 said:
Although those numbers are rather high, they're not entirely out of step with what voters have said about previous administrations. From your link:



More than anything, this demonstrates a general lack of political savvy among the general populace
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This is not surprising. Half of the voters in this country are dumber than the other half.

But their vote counts just as much.






"Democracy is messy." ~ Donald Rumsfeld
 
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ObamacareFail said:
As a conservative, I say "Do not impeach Obama". Let him suffer out the remainder of his second term....especially if the republicans gain control of the senate. Even Obama has admitted that with the GOP controlling both house of congress, his last two years in office would be torture.
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I do not like Obama and in this we agree. My pragmatic side says there are just too many other, infinitely more important, issues screaming for attention.
 
MTAtech said:
Your selective outrage is noted.
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Ain't hypocrisy fun????

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ObamacareFail said:
Just because the democrats went absolutely bat guano crazy and dusted off every extreme left wing proposal on the shelf and passed it or attempted to pass it when they gained control of the white house and both houses of congress in 2008
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You must live in a alternate universe because the USA I live in saw the Dems do basically nothing with their big numbers and solid control of Congress. Just go and talk to progressives and they will tell you it was an opportunity squandered.

You have to keep in mind that whether or not the republicans take control of the Senate in the coming midterms, the majority of republicans in office will still be RINOS (republicans in name only). It is laughable to suggest that the republicans will end up with radical right wing majorities.
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The rectum may be a small part of the body but that opening can dictate much of what the rest of the body does it is flares up in pain or is not functioning properly. Such will be the case for the GOP with its rectum dominating all other parts.

Though I do appreciate that so many radical leftwingers now seem to be conceding that the coming midterms will be a disaster for the democrat party and are now just thinking about 2016.
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It is too early to tell who will win the Senate. But if the GOP does, and they go bat guano crazy with libertarian and rightie legislation and investigations and even impeachment - they simply make it very likely for a 2016 banner year for Democrats.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
You have a very short memory. The democrats did the same only worse against Bush appointees.
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I'd ask for a cite, but I know it's impossible, so I'll just note that your memory apparently doesn't exist prior to 2009.
 
Perotista said:
There is so much of that going on. Republican always thinking the Democrats are bad and Democrats thinking the Republicans are bad. Perhaps even evil instead of bad. This is why when I do my research and numbers game, I tend to discount Republicans and Democrats and look at independents.
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I agree; it's the independents upon whom attention should focus.
 
nota bene said:
I agree; it's the independents upon whom attention should focus.
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Especially since the number who profess to be independents has shot up to 46% of the electorate while the two parties strengths has been in decline. In 2005 67% of the electorate identified with the two major parties while 30% said they are independents. Today only 52% now associate themselves with the two parties while 46% claim to be independents. That 15 point decline is the biggest for any ten year period going back to 1930. In fact from 1930-60 80% of the electorate identified themselves with the two parties. Their strength fell to 70% from 1960 to 1990 then in the 60's percent range until 2010. It has been in the 50's since then and I would be surprise to see the two party strength fall to below 50% in the next couple of years.

Americans as a whole are just plain becoming disgusted with the two major parties and that disgust is growing fast.
 
Paxaeon said:
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I do not like Obama and in this we agree. My pragmatic side says there are just too many other, infinitely more important, issues screaming for attention.
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I dont think this is a question of whether or not it is timeworthy but rather whether or not it is worthy period.

People voted for the man. Most dont like what he is doing or how he is doing it (61% as of latest polling). But if congress doesnt like what he is doing as the leader of the executive branch, congress has the right to and SHOULD take their concerns to the judiciary. That is their purpose in our system of checks and balances.

A better solution would just be to have the entire government resign as of the 2014 elections and start over. Congress cant exactly lean on their own stellar record of achievement and community support. House...senate...GOP and Democrat...probably not 50 real positive and effective representatives of the people in the entire mix.
 
Perotista said:
I think impeachment talk is now acceptable. It wasn't even thought of before Nixon and after Nixon resigned it went away until Clinton when the Republicans revived it. I think every president from now on will be threaten with talk of impeachment, this is just the climate of the times in Washington D.C.
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Agreed. It has been hyperpartisan since Clinton. The only thing that will change it is congressional term limits if they are ever enacted.
 
MTAtech said:
True, if it was harassment, which it wasn't.
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Thanks for the partisan spin on what has actually taken place. It's very amusing when the left attempts to connect run of the mill scrutiny to targeted scrutiny.
 
Paxaeon said:
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I do not like Obama and in this we agree. My pragmatic side says there are just too many other, infinitely more important, issues screaming for attention.
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Not to mention that impeachment just does not go anywhere. Two presidents have been impeached......Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Both served the remainder of their terms.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Agreed. It has been hyperpartisan since Clinton. The only thing that will change it is congressional term limits if they are ever enacted.
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The one thing that must change is gerrymandered districts creating so many safe seats where they tend to shift to the edges of the political continuum producing people who will not compromise or dare to see the other side has a point. Get rid of that and change and moderation will come hard and fast. And that is on both sides.
 
MTAtech said:
Your selective outrage is noted.
A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR


Bush DOJ Failed to Enforce Federal Law Protecting Abortion Providers from Anti-Abortion Extremists
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Nice try......however Reagan ultimately regretted signing that immigration/amnesty bill as the promised border security and enforcement never came. That's why the majority of Americans are against a comprehensive immigration bill today. We just do not trust the government's promises. If the immigration bill now being pushed passes without border security first, we will just be going through the same fight a couple decades from now. If you want to talk about abortion clinics start a thread on that.
 
haymarket said:
You must live in a alternate universe because the USA I live in saw the Dems do basically nothing with their big numbers and solid control of Congress.

You are kidding, right? To start with they passed a very unpopular healthcare bill against the wishes of the vast majority of Americans and without a single republican vote. That is one of the biggest reasons the democrats are in so much trouble leading into the midterms.

Just go and talk to progressives and they will tell you it was an opportunity squandered.
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Can't please some progressives can you?

The rectum may be a small part of the body but that opening can dictate much of what the rest of the body does it is flares up in pain or is not functioning properly. Such will be the case for the GOP with its rectum dominating all other parts.
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Oh my! I doubt that you can even tell the difference between a mainstream conservative and a far right radical. All you see is the "R" in front of the name on the ballot. Far right radicals are extremely rare these days at least in politics. Only two come to mind...Patrick Buchanan and Ron Paul.

It is too early to tell who will win the Senate. But if the GOP does, and they go bat guano crazy with libertarian and rightie legislation and investigations and even impeachment - they simply make it very likely for a 2016 banner year for Democrats.
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Unfortunately for you and others of the extreme radical left, pushing phantom fears of impeachment are not going to help you in the midterms or 2016. The damage is already done. Obamacare is the 1200 lb gorilla on your back heading into the midterm and it will still be there in 2016.
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JasperL said:
I'd ask for a cite, but I know it's impossible, so I'll just note that your memory apparently doesn't exist prior to 2009.
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Then I must assume that you slept through both Bush terms.
 
haymarket said:
The one thing that must change is gerrymandered districts creating so many safe seats where they tend to shift to the edges of the political continuum producing people who will not compromise or dare to see the other side has a point. Get rid of that and change and moderation will come hard and fast. And that is on both sides.
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I am amused that the left has suddenly found they have an aversion to gerrymandering. They loved gerrymandering when they were able to use it to their major advantage for five long decades. Suddenly as a result of the 2010 midterms and all of the state and local races, the republicans gained the gerrymandering advantage and suddenly to the democrats it's an evil tool that must be abolished.
 
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