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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Yes, the Democrats are destroying the country -- unemployment is down; the economy is up; the deficit is shrinking; the uninsured rate is down -- oh the humanity!
    Such spin. The unemployment numbers are baloney. Millions were forced into part time jobs, millions have simply given up looking for work. The economy is still stagnant, and the uninsured rate is a joke. If I had accepted a policy with a $6000.00 dollar deductible, I would not consider it real insurance.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    We'll see, won't we?
    Yes we will see. It's a ways off yet. I am more interested in the coming congressional midterms.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I'd be fine with much higher legal immigration numbers, up to and including the current illegal immigration numbers - so long as the border is also more secure, and those we absolutely do not want entering our country are kept out (violent criminals, rapists, terrorists)
    I have no problem whatsoever with legal immigration. And I agree. We need to know what types of people are coming across our borders. Without border control, we lose our soverignity.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Not going to happen, no matter how much some people on the right whine.

    Barack Obama will be living in the White House until another Democrat move in when he moves out in 2017.

    Wait and see.




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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    I was responding to Misterveritis, who proclaimed on the previous page, that my statement that unemployment is down under Obama is a lie. To disprove his lie I naturally needed to show the job growth only under Obama. As the graph clearly show, private sector jobs are higher now than when the President was inaugurated.

    However, if you have some other claim, you are free to post a graph making that point.
    When you factor in that the Bureau of Labor Statistics vastly undercounts the number of people who have given up looking for work or otherwise faded from the full-time work force....the unemployment numbers you are pushing are a "lie". You are as aware of that as everyone else. Over 90 million are out of the work force. Millions have been forced into part time jobs because of obamacare. You are just attempting a silly game of "gotcha" based on posted statistics that you know are controversial.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What about Che, Hitler and Castro? None of them won a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Do you have ANY idea what you're talking about?
    They might as well have....These are the types they seem to like lately....
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They might as well have....These are the types they seem to like lately....
    LOL. "They might as well have." That is CLASSIC.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I hope all progressives are that foolishly overconfident.



    Keep hoping and wait and see what happens.

    The clock is ticking.

    No one can stop time and/or change.




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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    I was responding to Misterveritis, who proclaimed on the previous page, that my statement that unemployment is down under Obama is a lie. To disprove his lie I naturally needed to show the job growth only under Obama. As the graph clearly show, private sector jobs are higher now than when the President was inaugurated.
    How does showing job growth demonstrate that unemployment is down? They can both go up at the same time...as they did from June to July.

    Now, the number of unemployed has gone down under Obama, though still about 2 million higher than pre-recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    When you factor in that the Bureau of Labor Statistics vastly undercounts the number of people who have given up looking for work or otherwise faded from the full-time work force....
    Since BLS is about the only source for these kind of data, how do you know they're undercounting? You also need to define your terms...what exactly do you mean by "given up looking?"
    You could mean what are called "Discouraged Workers," you could mean all marginally attached, you might be misunderstanding what "not in the labor force" means and think everyone in that category has "given up" or "faded from the labor force." I can't know what you mean until you define your terms.

    And then you'd have to establish why those numbers should make any difference to the unemployment data.


    the unemployment numbers you are pushing are a "lie".
    Lie in quotations? Do you mean the numbers are known to be something else and are deliberately changed? Or, what I believe more likely, do you think the internationally accepted definition that's been used in the U.S. for over 70 years (with some minor changes) is wrong. And if that's the case, what definition do you propose?

    Over 90 million are out of the work force.
    92.7% of them say they don't want a job. Of those who say they do, 3.8 million haven't looked for work in over a year. Is that a reliable indicator of the current labor market? And how likely are those people to start looking for work? A further 700,000 who say they want a job have looked for work in the last year, but are not available for work.

    So what significance are you attaching to the 90 million not working or looking for work?

    Millions have been forced into part time jobs because of obamacare.
    2.6 million people in July wanted full time (35+ hours) but worked part time because they couldn't find full time work. 4.7 million wanted to work part time but had hours cut due to business conditions. How many of those were because of Obamacare?

    You're making broad claims with ambiguous terms. Why is that?
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    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Keep hoping and wait and see what happens.

    The clock is ticking.

    No one can stop time and/or change.






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