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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

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    All they [Republicans] do is blame everyone else for their failures.
    I just... I don't even...
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    So it is a tool to be used only in response to offenses.
    Yes. And the offenses can be criminal or against the Constitution. Read with an open mind.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yes. And the offenses can be criminal or against the Constitution. Read with an open mind.
    Okay . I had put a breach of the Constitution as worse than regular crime. It should be punished as crime.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    There is no evidence I could give you that you would accept.
    Well, of course not.....any evidence you gave would be made up.
    It changes nothing.
    I know...that's the sad part.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which really doesn't make any sense. They can't convict him with a simple majority. It is actually impossible for Republicans to get to a 2/3 majority in this election (not just unlikely, there would have to be 2 more Senators up for re-election than there are), and by the time they could, Obama will be out of office anyway.

    That's even if you think they win EVERY Senate seat this cycle. Which is highly, highly unlikely. Even if they do that, they need to convince all the Republicans (unlikely) and get 2 Democrats to vote with them. Remember with Clinton, one of the counts against him couldn't even get a simple majority in a Senate that had a Republican majority.
    You're right that it takes a two-thirds supermajority vote in the Senate to convict after impeachment by the House. The Constitution sets that bar high enough that no President has ever been convicted. But I never suggested Republicans were likely to win enough Senate seats in the coming elections to make that possible. Even with a big victory, they would need more Senate Democrats to vote with them than they could hope to win over.

    But nothing says you can't move toward impeachment unless you're certain you have enough votes to convict. It's not likely there would have been enough votes in the Senate to convict Mr. Nixon or Mr. Clinton, either. And as it turned out, even Andrew Johnson's enemies came up one vote short in the Senate. But in none of those three cases did that stop the House from starting impeachment proceedings. And that was enough. Nixon resigned when he saw he was sure to be impeached, and both Johnson and Clinton were politically neutered for the remainder of their terms after being impeached. As in chess, you don't have to eliminate the king to win--you only need to put him in check.

    The problem is not a lack of votes in the House, where a simple majority is enough to impeach. Republicans already have that and may well add to their majority. McCarthy's argument, which I agree with, is that it's probably not wise politically for Republicans to move to impeach Mr. Obama unless or until they also control the Senate. No one knows just how many Senate seats they would need to gain to make the risk of moving toward impeachment acceptable. But the more solid their majority, the more likely such a move would become.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Okay . I had put a breach of the Constitution as worse than regular crime. It should be punished as crime.
    The Framers argued the point and chose to deal with political "crimes" by removing the offender from his office. Actual crimes involving the criminal statues can have both remedies.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Well, Bush was the most conservative president in 100 years. It's funny how conservatives now declare that Bush really wasn't a conservative when they were silent at the time.
    It is clear to me that you have no idea that there are differences between establishment Republicans and Conservatives. Bush brought a few Conservatives with him but he has never been a Conservative. Bush is a statist. He was not as bad as Obama but he pushed government growth in the same direction as Obama.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Well, of course not.....any evidence you gave would be made up.

    I know...that's the sad part.
    You have your talking points and you are wedded to them. There is nothing I can do to change your mind. I prefer not to bother trying any further.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You have your talking points and you are wedded to them.
    There is nothing I can do to change your mind. I prefer not to bother trying any further.





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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

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    Sometimes it's better to move on to more productive activities.
    Yes. Or at least preferred activities.

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