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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Perhaps, however I don't think it will help them on election midterm election night. All races are regional and the amount of money spent per race has not always been the deciding factor. Look at what happened to Eric Cantor. He out spent his opponent something like 30 to 1.
    It's a well-known fact that mid-terms almost always result in significant gains for the party that is not residing in the White House. In fact, if the GOP doesn't take the Senate, it will be seen as a significant victory for the Dems, especially since more incumbent Dem seats are up for reelection than are GOP seats. And in the House, the districts have been gerrymandered to such a degree that most GOP seats are safe no matter what - which is why the GOP has a significant majority even though in the 2012 election Democratic House candidates received over a half million more votes than GOP candidates did.

    However, in 2016, if Hillary runs and lives to election night, she will win the election and we will certainly take back the Senate...and possibly the House as well...because as much as the Right hates her, there's no one on your side that even comes close to presenting a real threat to her candidacy. Personally, I'd much prefer Elizabeth Warren...but if Hillary's the nominee, she'll get my vote...and the votes of all the other Dems who would prefer a real liberal instead of a LINO like Hillary. We see her much as the Right saw McCain.

    But while funding greatly helps, it's certainly not the be-all and end-all of elections. You and I can agree on that much, at least.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I love it when right wing true believers states nonsense like this. In the real world of real Americans with real incomes and real budgets such insanity would be mocked and ridiculed.

    I can see it right now in homes all across America:

    Husband: Hey baby, you know how you are always complaining that I am never here to do those chores you want me to do around the house? All that is changing and I will have much more time at home.
    Wife: How's that?
    Husband: I quit my second job working evenings at the mall.
    Wife: That second job brought in eighteen grand last year and was the difference between us being able to live here and pay the bills and us having to move to a much smaller place in a crappy neighborhood.
    Husband: No baby - it'll be okay. We just cut back on other stuff that we are overspending on...


    That is how it works in the real America with real people. Overspending my Great Aunt Mathilda!!!!!!
    LOL, not even a good analogy! Yeah, the federal government doesn't have any waste, not a smidgen. They need every bit of our tax dollars to cover the bare minimums that the government is supposed to be doing. Right.
    I'm glad you "love it" so much, you must love being wrong. And whose money do you think it is?
    Here's another flaw in your logic, working families go out and earn money, it belongs to them. Tell me, what does the federal government earn? What does it produce?
    Not even close to the real world. That's why you liberals believe what you believe, because you depend on the flawed logic of you leaders.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Impeachment is a political decision to solve a political problem."

    Then what crime must an office holder commit to be removed from office? Actual crimes are the top end of the scale of reasons, not the bottom.
    Perjury? Break and enter? Taking a bribe?

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com




    The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

    65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.
    I think a 35% number is quite high for something like impeachment. Because it's very likely that others are also dissatisfied, but don't want impeachment. Like me for instance. I don't think it's a good move, regardless of whether I'd like to see him rocketed into outer space.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    2001 Recession

    It lasted eight months (March-November 2001). It was caused by the Y2K scare, which created a boom and subsequent bust in Internet businesses. It was aggravated by the 9/11 attack. The economy contracted in two quarters: Q1 -1.3% (-.5%) and Q3 -1.1% (-1.4%).


    Bush says he inherited recession - Aug. 7, 2002



    The government doesn't force banks to do things they don't want to? You've got to be kidding with that one. Where have you been, under a rock?

    You do remember that the TARP spending, a huge waste that it was, was supposed to be a one time emergency jolt (not) for the economy. But, as feared, Obama seized on the chance to screw us all, and treat it as part of the budget, so he could keep up that reckless spending for a few more years. What a destructive jerk.
    Your on citation says that the 2001 recession started in March 2001. Sorry, Clinton was out of office by then. In any case, it was a small, short lived recession that had little effect on government spending and revenue. Your narrative that this recession was responsible for the years of deficits that followed has no empirical support.

    Self-serving declarations by Bush and Cheney that they inherited the recession are just that, self-serving.

    On Tarp, it was fully paid back and economists conclude that it saved the banking system, so of course, you were against it. I also think you don't know the difference between Tarp and the American Recovery Act, which was fiscal stimulus.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think a 35% number is quite high for something like impeachment. Because it's very likely that others are also dissatisfied, but don't want impeachment. Like me for instance. I don't think it's a good move, regardless of whether I'd like to see him rocketed into outer space.
    Since about a quarter of America doesn't think Obama is a citizen, a poll such as this has little merit.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Are you aware that it was the democrats in the Hillary Clinton camp that started the birther movement against Obama? They also leveled it at McCain.
    So what you're saying is that Conservatives trust Hillary Clinton?


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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Impeachment isn't on the table until possibly, after the mid-term elections. If Republicans can seize a majority in the Senate..... If they do not get a majority, then it's not an option unless Obama murders someone in broad daylight in the Rose Garden, with a pistol. (Obvious "Clue" reference there... ) The news networks would probably destroy the video - so it's a "maybe" even then.
    They need a lot more than a majority. Removing him from office requires 2/3 of the Senate. There's 33 Senate seats up for election and given that the Republicans currently hold 45, they'd have to pick up 22 without losing any of them. Seeing as how 13 of the seats being contested are currently held by the Republicans, they have to win all of the other ones, plus 2.

    Simply not possible.


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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    LOL, not even a good analogy! Yeah, the federal government doesn't have any waste, not a smidgen. They need every bit of our tax dollars to cover the bare minimums that the government is supposed to be doing. Right.
    I'm glad you "love it" so much, you must love being wrong. And whose money do you think it is?
    Here's another flaw in your logic, working families go out and earn money, it belongs to them. Tell me, what does the federal government earn? What does it produce?
    Not even close to the real world. That's why you liberals believe what you believe, because you depend on the flawed logic of you leaders.
    It is the perfect analogy as it exposes the rightwing fraud that you can cut your income and still be more than fine just like you are now.

    Regardless if you like it or not - the income of the federal government is taxes. Reality is what reality is. Denial is just dumb.

    Where did I say there is no waste or nothing to cut? Right off the top of my head I can point to over 2 trillion dollars that the government wasted over the last decade or so sticking our nose overseas where it did not belong. I simply think that the right wing drown it in a bathtub solution is foolish and inane so to talk about only tax cuts and pretend they will not have really bit negative impacts upon the American people is ridiculous.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They need a lot more than a majority. Removing him from office requires 2/3 of the Senate. There's 33 Senate seats up for election and given that the Republicans currently hold 45, they'd have to pick up 22 without losing any of them. Seeing as how 13 of the seats being contested are currently held by the Republicans, they have to win all of the other ones, plus 2.

    Simply not possible.
    It's possible, not probable.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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