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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Probably most of the liberals on the threads.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

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    You must live in a alternate universe because the USA I live in saw the Dems do basically nothing with their big numbers and solid control of Congress.

    You are kidding, right? To start with they passed a very unpopular healthcare bill against the wishes of the vast majority of Americans and without a single republican vote. That is one of the biggest reasons the democrats are in so much trouble leading into the midterms.
    Two years with big majorities in both houses and all we got was a watered down and compromised bill which started out as an idea from a conservative think tank.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Agreed. It has been hyperpartisan since Clinton. The only thing that will change it is congressional term limits if they are ever enacted.
    I am not sure that would even work. Not when the districts have been so gerrymandered as to guarantee hyper-partisan candidates get elected. Moderates for the most do not exist in congress anymore.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I am amused that the left has suddenly found they have an aversion to gerrymandering. They loved gerrymandering when they were able to use it to their major advantage for five long decades. Suddenly as a result of the 2010 midterms and all of the state and local races, the republicans gained the gerrymandering advantage and suddenly to the democrats it's an evil tool that must be abolished.
    Unless gerrymandering of districts is ended - this problem will be with us for the foreseeable future. A hyperpartisan response such as yours only underlines the problem.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Your viewpoint is laughable. The people you call "incompetent" are incompetent in your eyes because they don't hold your narrow political viewpoint.

    Sorry, DHS was established to head-off terrorism, not to keep kids, who surrender to authorities the minute they cross the boarder.

    The current head of DHS is Jeh Johnson. The first Sec'y of DHS was Tom Ridge, who raised the alert color every time Bush's poll numbers dropped. He was followed by Michael Chertoff and Janet Napolitano.

    Again, they are incompetent in your eyes because they don't hold share your politics. What is ironic is that you denounce Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry when "Mushroom Clouds" Condoleezza Rice -- who hyped invading Iraq -- a country that didn't need to be invaded and Colin L. Powell who told false statements to the U.N. about Iraqi plans that turned out to be 100% wrong -- all while Clinton and Kerry were saying invading Iraq was a bad idea.

    Eric Holder is far more appealing than Alberto R. Gonzales, who prosecuted Democratic politicians because they were Democrats and was soft on Republicans. He also fired Assistant Attorney Generals who refused to do his bidding on these matters.

    Yes, let's bring up the IRS.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail
    As a conservative, I say "Do not impeach Obama". Let him suffer out the remainder of his second term....especially if the republicans gain control of the senate. Even Obama has admitted that with the GOP controlling both house of congress, his last two years in office would be torture.
    First, that's looking less likely with each passing week, and in 2016 the map will favor Democrats.
    Second, the votes just aren't there to convict Obama. So, if you want a backlash against Republicans, go ahead and impeach.

    This is from the link above:

    The race for the Senate, at least right now, is stable. There aren’t many polls asking whether voters would prefer Democrats or Republicans to control Congress, but the Democrats appear to maintain a slight edge among registered voters. Democratic incumbents in red Republican states, who would be all but doomed in a Republican wave, appear doggedly competitive in places where Mitt Romney won by as much as 24 points in 2012.
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    But as July turns to August, the G.O.P. is now on the clock. If there is to be a wave this November, the signs of a shift toward the G.O.P. ought to start to show up, somewhere, soon. Every day that goes by without a shift toward the G.O.P. increases the odds that there will not be a wave at all.


    How could the Democrats dodge a wave, given the president’s weak ratings and the long history of the president’s party losing in midterms?


    Part of it might come from the unpopularity of the Republican Party. The G.O.P. is less popular today than it was in 2010, when G.O.P. favorability ratings increased and Democratic ratings faltered in advance of the midterms. Mr. Obama’s approval ratings might also be deceptive: They’re mainly low because of minimal support from Republican leaners, not because Mr. Obama has lost an unusual amount of ground among his own supporters.
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech
    Your viewpoint is laughable. The people you call "incompetent" are incompetent in your eyes because they don't hold your narrow political viewpoint.

    Sorry, DHS was established to head-off terrorism, not to keep kids, who surrender to authorities the minute they cross the boarder.

    The current head of DHS is Jeh Johnson. The first Sec'y of DHS was Tom Ridge, who raised the alert color every time Bush's poll numbers dropped. He was followed by Michael Chertoff and Janet Napolitano.

    Again, they are incompetent in your eyes because they don't hold share your politics. What is ironic is that you denounce Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry when "Mushroom Clouds" Condoleezza Rice -- who hyped invading Iraq -- a country that didn't need to be invaded and Colin L. Powell who told false statements to the U.N. about Iraqi plans that turned out to be 100% wrong -- all while Clinton and Kerry were saying invading Iraq was a bad idea.

    Eric Holder is far more appealing than Alberto R. Gonzales, who prosecuted Democratic politicians because they were Democrats and was soft on Republicans. He also fired Assistant Attorney Generals who refused to do his bidding on these matters.

    Yes, let's bring up the IRS.
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You're watching to {sic} much MSNBC or you're a Groucho Marxist.
    TRANSLATION: APACHERAT can't intelligent debate what MTAtech wrote, so he'll just call MTAtech a Marxist instead. Oh, and learn the different forms in our language, "to" is not the same as "too." Oh, oh, you can never watch too much MSNBC-- unless it is "Lockup."
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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail
    You have a very short memory. The democrats did the same only worse against Bush appointees.
    Ahem:

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com




    The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

    65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.
    1/3 is probably an accurate percentage representing the low hanging fruit each side has at its disposal. Thank goodness there are enough in the middle to thwart the crazies.

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    Re: POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail
    I am amused that the left has suddenly found they have an aversion to gerrymandering. They loved gerrymandering when they were able to use it to their major advantage for five long decades. Suddenly as a result of the 2010 midterms and all of the state and local races, the republicans gained the gerrymandering advantage and suddenly to the democrats it's an evil tool that must be abolished.
    It's only a matter of time when voters in the red states start defeating Republican legislators and governors who decided not to have health care exchanges or expand Medicaid. Their policies put those states at a disadvantage to states that started exchanges and expand Medicaid.

    Those health care exchanges are is very popular in Kentucky, where low income voters couldn't afford coverage.
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