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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannon View Post
    Absolutist statements are almost always wrong.



    Like the one that you just made, eh?

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    They didn't see **** because they're blinded by their Political correctness and their allegiance to do nothing...

    The funniest part is that they claimed they "saw it coming" so what does that make them? stupid or tolerant?

    They're ****ing idiots...
    Stop and think about it. The Obama administration has helped topple multiple secular ruled countries and just walked away following the downfall of the leadership leaving tribal factions and invading Islamists to fight it out for control of the country.

    All of this after denigrating Bush for the thousands who lost their lives in Iraq.

    In supporting the Arab Spring isn't Obama responsible loss of life as well? His acceptable loss of life is just different than Bush's.

    Dead is dead.

    They obviously saw it coming.
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    G.W. Bush was the guy who kicked off the un-necessary Iraq war which the USA will be paying for a long time from now, with nothing to show for the lives lost and money thrown away.

    Like Obama's Arab Spring.
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Stop and think about it. The Obama administration has helped topple multiple secular ruled countries and just walked away following the downfall of the leadership leaving tribal factions and invading Islamists to fight it out for control of the country.

    All of this after denigrating Bush for the thousands who lost their lives in Iraq.

    In supporting the Arab Spring isn't Obama responsible loss of life as well? His acceptable loss of life is just different than Bush's.

    Dead is dead.

    They obviously saw it coming.
    You are correct with that.
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Like the one that you just made, eh?
    Such as?..

    Your arguments thus far have been bipartisan. Placing the blame of a multidimensional issue on one individual is the paragon of simplicity. It completely ignores every other variable. I have not made absolutist claims.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh. Okay. So it is your argument that Al Qaeda does not have the ability to launch attacks against the West. Okedoke.
    I'd say it's certainly not "imminent," as has been claimed in this thread, and much of AQ's assets seem to be tied up in the ME.
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Stop and think about it. The Obama administration has helped topple multiple secular ruled countries and just walked away following the downfall of the leadership leaving tribal factions and invading Islamists to fight it out for control of the country.

    All of this after denigrating Bush for the thousands who lost their lives in Iraq.

    In supporting the Arab Spring isn't Obama responsible loss of life as well? His acceptable loss of life is just different than Bush's.

    Dead is dead.

    They obviously saw it coming.
    I think the Obama administration fell into the same trap the Bush administration did, where they felt if these people were able to crawl out from under the thumb of the dictators, then democracy would spring forth and all would be hunky-dory. I don't think it would have in Libya or Egypt, no matter who we threw our support behind.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Like the one that you just made, eh?
    Rhiannon just said, "almost always". This is NOT an absolute statement.
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'd say it's certainly not "imminent," as has been claimed in this thread, and much of AQ's assets seem to be tied up in the ME.
    ahhhh. that's fantastic to know that it is not imminent. Here I thought that we were trying to stay abreast of multiple threat streams emanating from multiple groups all of whom have learned the hard way over the past decade or so how to have good COMSEC. Have you conveyed your special knowledge to the CIA? they might be interested in hiring someone of your impressive abilities.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ahhhh. that's fantastic to know that it is not imminent. Have you conveyed your special knowledge to the CIA? they might be interested in hiring someone of your impressive abilities.
    Did I say I "knew"? This guy in post 20 seems to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Another attack is imminent. And we will again, fail to respond in any meaningful way. This, I fear, will be a repeat of WW1 and WW2. America and it's allies will fail to stop an imminent large scale world conflict. In the end, more Americans will die then if we had just taken care of this problem when we had the chance while we had forces in Iraq.
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