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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, I already agreed with you that Israel isn't going anywhere. It's the two choices we've already mentioned. Palestinians are afforded the SAME rights that Israelis have or this thing trudges on to its bloody end.
    Who is stopping the Palestinians from having the same rights as the Israelis, or anyone else?

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Of course the Russians are innocent, they never supported anyone over there right; not with RPGs, AK-47's, ammo, nuclear reactors or anything else invented in Russian, right?
    The Russians would gladly sale their nuclear arms to the highest bidder for a quick buck. No one claimed they're innocent. Most, if not all, superpowers exploit other nations which is likely why they are a superpower to start with .. they certainly didn't get there by being nice.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who is stopping the Palestinians from having the same rights as the Israelis, or anyone else?
    Oh dear!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    To do that Hamas has to STOP firing rockets into Israel. Until they do that, there will be no deal on the table.

    I agree they should have a state, but they are distancing themselves from that goal with each rocket they fire indiscriminately into Israel civilian centers.
    It's the Israelis killing civilians, 1600-1800!! I think Hamas has killed 70 or so Israelis with 65 or so being soldiers.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's the Israelis killing civilians, 1600-1800!! I think Hamas has killed 70 or so Israelis with 65 or so being soldiers.
    Oh so you're saying NONE of the rockets fired into Israel have killed civilians? You're really going with that?

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Oh so you're saying NONE of the rockets fired into Israel have killed civilians? You're really going with that?
    Better read what you quoted again.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Better read what you quoted again.
    Yeah you're saying the Israelis are the ones killing civlians. Sorry, but before the incursion it was Hamas firing rockets at civilians in Israel. Better check your history again.

    If Hamas is going to fire from hospitals and houses, expect Israel to fire on those areas. MAybe if Hamas wasn't using Guerilla tactics, there would be less casualties on the Palestinian side.

    Seems you are cheering for Hamas using this method and don't want Israel to fight back.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yeah you're saying the Israelis are the ones killing civlians. Sorry, but before the incursion it was Hamas firing rockets at civilians in Israel. Better check your history again.

    If Hamas is going to fire from hospitals and houses, expect Israel to fire on those areas. MAybe if Hamas wasn't using Guerilla tactics, there would be less casualties on the Palestinian side.

    Seems you are cheering for Hamas using this method and don't want Israel to fight back.
    Criticizing the vastly more powerful Israeli state does not equate to support of Hamas' indiscriminent rocket fire. However repeating propaganda doesn't advance your position, and treating the handful of Israeli civilian deaths as anywhere near the Israeli killing of one thousand eight hundred men, women and children civilians shows what you're cheering.


    Jeremy Bowen's Gaza notebook: I saw no evidence of Hamas using Palestinians as human shields
    The BBC's Middle East editor reports from Gaza.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you think this war is abut countries then you are woefully misinformed. How often need it be explained that this is about Islamists?
    We decided to fight it by invading countries, and that was the mistake.

    And no evidence that they were planned in Saudi Arabia, despite your efforts to involve them somehow. This is not to say that the Saudis have clean hands but few Muslims countries do.
    No one said that. Read more carefully.

    yes both parties took credit for something not done. Shocking, I know,. But stay focused on what is being said here.

    There was real change until Obama removed the troops, despite warnings from his generals. Those deaths are on Barrack Obama's head and no one else.
    No, the violence continued even then. We could hold it for ever, but that never works with a democracy. No mater how long we stayed, this was the eventuality. You guys never saw that, hence support for a flawed effort.

    Like I said, you can't beat one foe if you don't tackle that foe. beating up someone weaker and not related doesn't help. That was always the problem.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are sounding ever more foolish. Please read this so you'll have a better understanding of what actually happened during that period. It's useless to debate if you don't understand the history. If, after reading the article, and you see any errors whatsoever, please point them out. Revisionist History Prevails on Iraq Invasion - Victor Davis Hanson - Page full
    LOL. That was funny excuse making to be sure. That Victor is always a hoot. Often wrong, but a hoot none the less.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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