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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    They've been closely watching them, what does that have to do with anything?

    Obama's mind was probably made up in 2012. He will ever escalate anything in Iraq.

    Him saying he is "considering" options is just to appease the warmongering Republicans like McCain.
    No it means he has no idea what to do.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How so?
    Because Jews, who have existed as a people for over 3 millenia, are the one people in the world who absolutely cannot be allowed to express any self-determination.

    ....As opposed to Palestinians, who have existed as a people only since the creation of Israel, and whose manifest destiny involves the obliteration of the Jewish state.
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The U.S. wronged the American Indian population in the U.S. during its time of creation. We are not going to undue that harm. That is reality.

    Yes, the wrong doesn't go away, but the reality is that Israel is not going away either. If the Palestinians cannot accept that, they will be wiped out eventually because Israel is going to have to in its defense.
    If you think that Israel moving in and then responding to Palestinian is defensive, there's a problem. In fact every problem created by men remains because of that tired old excuse. Well, its here now, nothing we can do about it. But when there was something that could be done, namely when the crime is being committed, good men, outnumbered, do nothing. Wiping the Palestinians out wouldn't be painless, and with growing US/UK condemnation now, not likely.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If you think that Israel moving in and then responding to Palestinian is defensive, there's a problem. In fact every problem created by men remains because of that tired old excuse. Well, its here now, nothing we can do about it. But when there was something that could be done, namely when the crime is being committed, good men, outnumbered, do nothing. Wiping the Palestinians out wouldn't be painless, and with growing US/UK condemnation now, not likely.
    I'm sorry, but what do you see as a solution, Israel moving? I mean really, if that is what you are going to argue, you aren't dealing with reality. 7.7 million people are not going to uproot and walk away, so what other solution is there?

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Because Jews, who have existed as a people for over 3 millenia, are the one people in the world who absolutely cannot be allowed to express any self-determination.

    ....As opposed to Palestinians, who have existed as a people only since the creation of Israel, and whose manifest destiny involves the obliteration of the Jewish state.
    That's a GROSE mis characterization. No one objects to Israeli self determination, what's protested is Israeli self determination at Palestinian expense. And all reasonable individuals would understand that.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm sorry, but what do you see as a solution, Israel moving? I mean really, if that is what you are going to argue, you aren't dealing with reality. 7.7 million people are not going to uproot and walk away, so what other solution is there?
    No, I already agreed with you that Israel isn't going anywhere. It's the two choices we've already mentioned. Palestinians are afforded the SAME rights that Israelis have or this thing trudges on to its bloody end.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, I already agreed with you that Israel isn't going anywhere. It's the two choices we've already mentioned. Palestinians are afforded the SAME rights that Israelis have or this thing trudges on to its bloody end.
    To do that Hamas has to STOP firing rockets into Israel. Until they do that, there will be no deal on the table.

    I agree they should have a state, but they are distancing themselves from that goal with each rocket they fire indiscriminately into Israel civilian centers.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannon View Post
    The US is greatly benefited by a divided ME. Handing arms to one side while "supporting" another is not new policy. Creating confusion is the oldest tactic used in warfare. And the war for declining global resources continues..
    Of course the Russians are innocent, they never supported anyone over there right; not with RPGs, AK-47's, ammo, nuclear reactors or anything else invented in Russian, right?
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Because Jews, who have existed as a people for over 3 millenia, are the one people in the world who absolutely cannot be allowed to express any self-determination.

    ....As opposed to Palestinians, who have existed as a people only since the creation of Israel, and whose manifest destiny involves the obliteration of the Jewish state.
    The Palestinians are being used as proxies by other Islamic countries. They certainly can't manufacture their own rockets.

    Once radical Islam gets rid of the Jews and the Christians they will have control of the Middle East and much of the world's oil, even while Obama refuses to allow oil exploration or the Keystone pipeline. China and Russia have moved into Central America and, as well as a canal to compete with Panama, they are also building oil refineries. I expect Venezuelan oil and Mexican oil may be going there soon.

    The US has the strongest military in the world but it is wasted against terrorism and deeper political and strategic moves, especially those where essential energies, even water, are concerned.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    In a nut shell, Israel's presence and oppression of the Palestinian people is the problem. But then you know this.
    Only uninformed people know that, and J-Mac is not uninformed.

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