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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    when Saudis attack us with Pakistani money,
    That doesn't make sense. Saudis are rich and Pakistanis are dirt poor.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That doesn't make sense. Saudis are rich and Pakistanis are dirt poor.
    but pakistan is rich with the money they recieve from us to be our allies in the war on terror.

    guess how well that turned out?
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    but pakistan is rich with the money they recieve from us to be our allies in the war on terror.
    Compared to Saud oil money, that's chump change. And in case you didn't notice... Pakistan is a craphole.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    but pakistan is rich with the money they recieve from us to be our allies in the war on terror.

    guess how well that turned out?
    The US did not make Pakistan rich. It is still a poor country.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Compared to Saud oil money, that's chump change. And in case you didn't notice... Pakistan is a craphole.
    the same can be said about most of Saudi arabia.

    and pakistan has nukes...
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the same can be said about most of Saudi arabia.
    But the same can be said about all of Pakistan.

    and pakistan has nukes...
    What does that have to do with Pakistan being an armpit?

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Did the Saudi Arabia attack the US? When was that?
    Neither did Iraq. But those who did were Saudis.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That doesn't make sense. Saudis are rich and Pakistanis are dirt poor.
    Doesn't change what happened.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Why does anyone with even a modest amount of intelligence think that the USofA can intervene in areas like Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan without it causing more issues than it "fixes"?

    Why does anyone think "we" can "fix" anything in countries with those kinds of cultures, histories, and beliefs?

    It's just plain silly.
    There are several reasons why US foreign policies probably can't work in the ME. 1) There doesn't appear to be any leadership there that understand the concept of liberty. The ancestors of the people living there now probably had more liberty when they lived in local tribes. 2) There is both a lack of ethics and a rule of law, except that given by religious leaders, and a lot of people there think murder is okay. Our leaders seem to think that the leaders there have people who can just take over when we leave, after we have changed their system to suit us. Can't and probably won't happen.

    So that boils down to only three choices: liberty, tyranny and/ or chaos. Since liberty is not understood, that leaves only the last two. We have seen tyranny, which we mistakenly thought we had eliminated; now we're seeing chaos, which will probably last a long time. When we get rid of a country's regime, which has happened in many countries including Iran, Iraq, Egypt, [and we are trying in Syria], what replaces that except violence? We don't understand them, and they probably think we're pipe dreamers to be tolerated until we depart. Then they go back to what they have always known.

    You are right, Dragonfly, it's just plain silly to think we can fix things over there!

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Neither did Iraq. But those who did were Saudis.
    That's not true. Saudi Arabia had 15, United Arab Emirates 2, Egypt 1, and Lebanon 1. Their connection was Islam.

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