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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    So sell me.

    Why should I disregard the USIC's NIE in how the Iraq war has affected "terrorism"?
    I'm not saying you should disregard it but that perhaps you should have a more critical look at it.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What we see in Iraq right now are the consequences of the USA sticking it's nose into a situation that it had no real business getting involved in.
    Yes, I already know that Americans are to blame for the world's problems and that the Islamists are just innocent bystanders to US meddling.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm not saying you should disregard it but that perhaps you should have a more critical look at it.
    I see.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, I already know that Americans are to blame for the world's problems and that the Islamists are just innocent bystanders to US meddling.



    The USA didn't create all of the worlds problems, but it has certainly created and exacerbated quite a few of them by things that it has done and left undone.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The USA didn't create all of the worlds problems, but it has certainly created and exacerbated quite a few of them by things that it has done and left undone.
    Who else has been at fault apart from Americans?

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who else has been at fault apart from Americans?



    Lots of countries, groups and people.

    But right now we're talking about the USA, which should have a lot better record.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Actually, no. The circumstances were quite different. History does not stand still.

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    Well if this history changed so much then why did it turn out the same way 1994 dick Cheney say it would?
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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....
    So, if they grow in Iraq, and we are attacked by Saudis with Pakistan funds again, explain to me the connection.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Obvious except to those who wasted a lot of U.S. lives and money in that Hell-hole for no good result..
    True enough.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Lots of countries, groups and people.

    But right now we're talking about the USA, which should have a lot better record.
    Using "Americans" broadly as he is is a fallacy. Many Americans have been opposed to US interventionist policies for years. Of course those that support it are Americans, but no longer a majority.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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