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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It applied perfectly??

    In the interim following Desert Storm Saddam Hussein continued to defy the United Nations (also bribing members) and would not follow the treaty which stopped Desert Storm. It was giving him a chance to follow the requirements and survive. Of course he did no such thing.
    I think the events following our invasion proved that Saddam WAS doing exactly what he needed to do to survive. His military was decimated after Kuwait, and his WMD's were confiscated by the U.N. What choice did he have but to bluff? It wasn't even that convincing a bluff either but Bush had a one track mind.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You an advocate for permanent US presence in the ME?
    Obama/Biden should have followed the General's advice and left 24,000 troops there, just as they suggested. Of course Barrack Obama was seriously out of his depth and we now see the consequences of his inexperience and naive ideological policies.

    He told Putin he could be 'more flexible' after the election and we are now seeing the consequences of that also.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps you were never aware of the proud Iraqis celebrating the first democratic election in their history. The American military is second to none and could have maintained control had Barrack Obama not retreated.
    And while these celebrations were ongoing, the pre-cursors to ISIS were doing their thing.
    Iraq has been violent without stop.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama/Biden should have followed the General's advice and left 24,000 troops there, just as they suggested. Of course Barrack Obama was seriously out of his depth and we now see the consequences of his inexperience and naive ideological policies.

    He told Putin he could be 'more flexible' after the election and we are now seeing the consequences of that also.
    Lots of Americans are glad Obama didn't leave soldiers in Iraq to be killed by the jihadists that he and previous administrations have supported. In fact, polls are showing that Americans are increasingly dissatisfied with our interventionist foreign policy. Bad news for the warmongers you keep company with, sorry for that.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I think the events following our invasion proved that Saddam WAS doing exactly what he needed to do to survive. His military was decimated after Kuwait, his WMD's confiscated by the U.N. What choice did he have but to bluff? It wasn't even that convincing a bluff either but Bush had a one track mind.
    Well Saddam didn't survive so that idea was rather foolish. Bush gave him plenty of warning but Saddam chose unwisely and was later flushed out of the sewers. The Iraqi courts then tried and convicted him with Saddam shouting Allah Akbar on the way down to his fate.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, when America retreated of course it did. Now we see the consequences of cutting and running rather than maintaining the positions which were won..
    We were not on a mission of conquest so your comment about "position's won" are ridiculous. We were there to bring democracy to Iraq, not to rule them.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you are surmising that these groups would not have grown had the US and its Allies ignored Iraq and Afghanistan?
    I pointed out the collective opinion of the United States Intelligence Community as stated in a National Intelligence Estimate.

    I may be wrong.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lots of Americans are glad Obama didn't leave soldiers in Iraq to be killed by the jihadists that he and previous administrations have supported. In fact, polls are showing that Americans are increasingly dissatisfied with our interventionist foreign policy. Bad news for the warmongers you keep company with, sorry for that.
    American soldiers have demonstrated repeatedly that they can more than look after themselves against Jihadists or anyone else. It's the civilians the Jihadists will be attacking who cannot defend themselves. If the American people feel they can protect themselves against Islamists better than the US military then good luck to them.

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I pointed out the collective opinion of the United States Intelligence Community as stated in a National Intelligence Estimate.

    So you have no opinion of your own?

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    Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They are the government and its non-leathal humanitarian aid for the damage Israel is doing. And despite the public face, no one that matters believes that Israel's operation is pinpointed as Israel claims. I loved John Kerry's hot mic comment the other day!
    Isn't it wonderful how our corporations make a profit selling arms to Israel (and many others) and then make profit providing aid to those attacked to repair and minimize the damage from those same weapons, all paid for by the USA's taxpayers.

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