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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well if you understand US intrigue in Latin America for decades, you understand the nature of the trouble in it.
    Actually, I find it interesting why n general, iLatin America never seems to be able to recover from the trouble of it, and country after country repeats the trouble of "it" over and over for decades.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obviously they haven't the resources to resist America's big stick. Central American countries combined have a fraction of the US GDP. I just showed you several posts back the level of violence and sabotage the CIA has deployed against the countries in this region, and you blame these comparatively weak countries for not standing up against it!
    I'm sorry, but I'm never going to agree to the excuse you are using. It ignores the broad history of the region.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Do you think we should increase aid to Central America? I'm torn because we already do give them alot and it's like we keep helping and helping all these countries and nothing really gets accomplished and our own country is failing in the meanwhile. We do share and we do help out yet when do they help or even thank us?
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    #1 Some have shown to not get their act together (but some have, although Ecuador isn't Central America)

    #2 What the U.S has done in South America in the past was so disgusting, we raised dictatorships all across Latin America to protect our interests which only served to turn them into extremely backwards nations

    I think you're being just a tad biased, look at the whole picture and what we did, not just at them being ****holes, it's just more complicated than that.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Actually, I find it interesting why n general, iLatin America never seems to be able to recover from the trouble of it, and country after country repeats the trouble of "it" over and over for decades.
    Recovery isn't easy, Africa to this day still fails to recover from the slave trade centuries ago.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Recovery isn't easy, Africa to this day still fails to recover from the slave trade centuries ago.
    It would seem that is true about Africa. Why is it true? Not all of Africa has lived under apartheid. Many parts of Europe where completely destroyed after WWII, not to mention the lingering impact of WWI. Then there is the issue of the fall of the Soviet Union, and the economic success of unified Germany.

    There must be a cultural/societal element involved in these countries that continue to struggle for generations.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It would seem that is true about Africa. Why is it true? Not all of Africa has lived under apartheid. Many parts of Europe where completely destroyed after WWII, not to mention the lingering impact of WWI. Then there is the issue of the fall of the Soviet Union, and the economic success of unified Germany.

    There must be a cultural/societal element involved in these countries that continue to struggle for generations.
    5-7 year war cannot be equated to centuries of slave trading or decades of tyrranical rulings all across a continent.

    When Europe was mostly destroyed the information was still there, the idea of libraries, schooling, equality and such were still there. It was just a matter of getting some concrete and some building materials.

    Africa and to a slighter extent South America weren't even given the information that Europe or the U.S has. For them it's more than just a matter of getting construction tools, it's a matter of teaching them, instilling certain values in them, etc.

    Instead we allowed them to further plunge down into hell, Africa through a lack of attention at all and South America due to the upbringing (sponsored by the U.S) of multiple dictators who literally purged school teachers and intelligent people among other things.
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    Also, for Europe's recovery post WWII the U.S. held Europe's hand like a mother would a toddler.

    We never did that for Africa and we sure as **** never did that for South America, both countries which WE PURPOSELY ****ed up big time.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Also, for Europe's recovery post WWII the U.S. held Europe's hand like a mother would a toddler.

    We never did that for Africa and we sure as **** never did that for South America, both countries which WE PURPOSELY ****ed up big time.
    Africa wasn't given the information Europe and the US was given? Who kept it from them? Who kept information from Latin America?

    I don't think talking points and excuses addresses the issue.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    One thing is also true that Mexican and Central Americans will always be correct about when they point it out. US demand for drugs promotes the lucrative business, just sayin.
    So you're saying drugs are addictive and that drug dealers push their product? Bingo!
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm sorry, but I'm never going to agree to the excuse you are using. It ignores the broad history of the region.
    It's no excuse. Centuries of one imperialist power to the next with a heavy foot on their neck, has held them back, on occasions when they did start to advance their OWN interests, electing liberal democracies, that leg has been kicked out from under them, and replaced with right wing dictators who were oppressive and advanced the interests of US business, on multiple occasions and this is documented fact. How you can deny the harm this has done is astonishing.
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