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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    They estimate there's about 30,000 to 50,000 gang members in El Salvador alone. It's the same for Honduras and Guatemala.


    How would you go about rounding up 150,000 gang members and assuming you succeed, where would you put them after you do and who is going to pay to keep them all incarcerated?

    US deportation of gang members after they served time in US prisons is likely what caused the gang problem in Central America in the first place.
    Yup, exactly. All the MS-13 gangs terrorizing Latin America are US trained and you combine that with the heavily armed drug cartels like the Zetas and there will be no way our city cops will be able to arrest them. No cop in his sane mind would volunteer to go to South America and try to arrest drugsters down there, they will get killed.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    bahhh... I've had about enough of war. Our proxy wars in the 80's opened the gate for these countries' craphole position they are in.

    I can't see war solving anything.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Yup, exactly. All the MS-13 gangs terrorizing Latin America are US trained and you combine that with the heavily armed drug cartels like the Zetas and there will be no way our city cops will be able to arrest them. No cop in his sane mind would volunteer to go to South America and try to arrest drugsters down there, they will get killed.

    Yup, the US exported its gang and drug problem to Central America and now it's coming back to bite. It would not surprise me if they've had contact with Al Qaeda.

    I agree, it's not a job for local cops to go to C. America and round up the most psychotic, violent, heavily armed gangs on the planet. lol A military is probably required...but whose?

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    While the United States bears no direct responsibility for the Comayagua deaths, it's worth asking what responsibility we bear for the conditions that made the tragedy possible -- given how our government used Soto Cano and dozens of Contra bases to turn Honduras effectively into one giant base to support Reagan's anti-communist campaign; given how the United States has largely ignored the country and its problems since; given how our failed drug war has only pushed traffickers into Honduras as a transit point to the north; given U.S. support for the murderous tough-on-crime strategies of a series of Honduran governments, including the current coup-backed government.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    After the history of U.S. intervention in Latin America, involving the invasion of countries, the organization of coups, and the overthrow of democratically elected governments, anyone who says the U.S. shares no blame in this is simply ignorant. Throw in the fact that we export guns to the drug cartels, are the largest consumers of the drugs the cartels sell, and have ravaged the region even more with the failed war on drugs, and the U.S. does not look like a positive force in this region at all.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What a couple of Idiots....How about they get control of their own countries, and realize that people are fleeing their socialist countries for freedom...We, can't help them...Send the kids back.
    Both of those presidents are conservatives, and how about Texas get control of it's own borders?
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Those other countries are right, the US is showing lousy leadership when it comes to the immigration issue. By giving refugee status to minors who made it into the country Congress and POTUS are encouraging more illegals to come into the country. There's gonna be a flood of people coming across the border soon.
    Since those children are going to be deported, I don't see how that encourages anyone to come here illegally

    Can you explain how?
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    After the history of U.S. intervention in Latin America, involving the invasion of countries, the organization of coups, and the overthrow of democratically elected governments, anyone who says the U.S. shares no blame in this is simply ignorant. Throw in the fact that we export guns to the drug cartels, are the largest consumers of the drugs the cartels sell, and have ravaged the region even more with the failed war on drugs, and the U.S. does not look like a positive force in this region at all.
    Truly sad that we won't collectively accept responsibility for this, and then most importantly, demand that our government changes policy. Do something that would actually give those countries a leg up.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kristin18 View Post
    We don't even spend enough money to educate our own American kids. We need to fix our systems here before we take responsibility for foreign nation's citizens. Immigration is one thing but so many people are here illegally and it's taken a toll nationally.
    Then why not start here?

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