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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i am not talking about a war.

    i am thinking more like police action.
    At best I could see a unified coalition of ourselves, central american countries and mexico to perhaps speed up extradition of criminals for prosecution across borders and sharing of intel and the rounding up of these criminals.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Those other countries are right, the US is showing lousy leadership when it comes to the immigration issue. By giving refugee status to minors who made it into the country Congress and POTUS are encouraging more illegals to come into the country. There's gonna be a flood of people coming across the border soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    We have an unstable demographic situation that requires immigration. I am all for finding a way to bring those kids in and educate them to be productive members of the society they choose to live in. If they later want to go back? Fine. They probably will not hate us. If they want to stay? Fine. We will need educated people in a few years.

    Should we have passed an anti-trafficking law preventing sex slaves? Should you hate Bush, because he did? That is up to you.
    We don't even spend enough money to educate our own American kids. We need to fix our systems here before we take responsibility for foreign nation's citizens. Immigration is one thing but so many people are here illegally and it's taken a toll nationally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Those other countries are right, the US is showing lousy leadership when it comes to the immigration issue. By giving refugee status to minors who made it into the country Congress and POTUS are encouraging more illegals to come into the country. There's gonna be a flood of people coming across the border soon.
    I agree because the main objective for illegal immigrants is to just get past the border because they know once they are here in America nothing is going to happen. So many people have done it before ..they count on it..

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Decriminalize drugs and the cartels are NOTHING. Their power is directly derived from the fact that the failed war on drugs policy has done nothing but given them seats of power.
    The cartels aren't just about drugs, anymore. It's also kidnapping, sex trade, arms trading and smuggling, murder, corrupt police, etc.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    At best I could see a unified coalition of ourselves, central american countries and mexico to perhaps speed up extradition of criminals for prosecution across borders and sharing of intel and the rounding up of these criminals.
    They estimate there's about 30,000 to 50,000 gang members in El Salvador alone. It's the same for Honduras and Guatemala.


    How would you go about rounding up 150,000 gang members and assuming you succeed, where would you put them after you do and who is going to pay to keep them all incarcerated?

    US deportation of gang members after they served time in US prisons is likely what caused the gang problem in Central America in the first place.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Except for the fact that the drug lords are the have's vs the have nots and these particular haves are extremely brutal and use that drug money to expand their brutality.
    True. I don't know how such species are tolerated. However, it does call into question the societal/cultural issues that place these never ending pariahs in positions of power over them.

    The revolving door governments of Latin America are a reflection of a bigger issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What a couple of Idiots....How about they get control of their own countries, and realize that people are fleeing their socialist countries for freedom...We, can't help them...Send the kids back.
    Actually...we are mostly to blame for this situation. America's War on Drugs is a HUGE reason Central America and Mexico are having major problems with gangs and cartels. The way to solve this problem is to stop this war. People using will continue using and people who don't wont. The cartels will lose their cash cow and no longer be bigger than the governments of their countries.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Abject poverty has been an issue in Latin American countries long before the "Drug Lords" came into power. The "blame it on drugs" meme is just an excuse that doesn't hold water.
    Well you've got a point. However you want to blame it on them, presume that they're inferior, when in fact they're wealth was looted, first by several European countries, then the US kicked them out and proceeded to loot. But then you probably know nothing of any of that, and therefore will deny it too.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    True. I don't know how such species are tolerated. However, it does call into question the societal/cultural issues that place these never ending pariahs in positions of power over them.

    The revolving door governments of Latin America are a reflection of a bigger issue.
    That bigger issue would be US menacing by the CIA, overthrowing left leaning democracies and replacing them with right wing dictatorships.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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