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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Good grief, here is the post I was responding to, I don't wish to engage you in your typical semantic change the goal posts game.
    The quote confirms that I'm right and you're wrong
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The quote confirms that I'm right and you're wrong
    Solely in your own mind.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Good grief, here is the post I was responding to, I don't wish to engage you in your typical semantic change the goal posts game.
    South America is no longer under U.S rule but the dictators still screwed them over, Sangha has a point, so you're right, a 100 pounder can potentially beat back the 220 pounder when he gets bored, but doesn't mean he won't have bruises, nasty nasty bruises that won't heal for some time.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Solely in your own mind.
    Incorrect, not solely his mind
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Exactly, we still have responsibility for the slave trade, them selling themselves doesn't justify ****.

    If it weren't for us there would be no slave trade because there would be no customers.

    So yes, we need to take some responsibility for their woes.
    No one referred to a justification except you. (strawman)

    You need to brush up on your history. The US isn't the only nation that engaged in the slave trade.

    The responsibility for the slave trade was shared by colonists/Americans, Africans, South Americans, and Europeans who engaged in it. They were all wrong, period.

    Maybe you and your mom should conduct more research since you talk about it "all the time" so you can become more knowledgeable.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    No one referred to a justification except you. (strawman)

    You need to brush up on your history. The US isn't the only nation that engaged in the slave trade.

    The responsibility for the slave trade was shared by colonists/Americans, Africans, South Americans, and Europeans who engaged in it. They were all wrong, period.

    Maybe you and your mom should conduct more research since you talk about it "all the time" so you can become more knowledgeable.
    I said we should take some responsibility, never said we should take all of it, I partially concede my point that the U.S ****ed up Africa only because I omitted the other perpetrators, my point still stands, we have yet to really help Africa or SA catch up to the rest of the world.

    SA is a ****hole, and because of that those people are migrating here. illegally and in large numbers.

    That is pissing us off, then we blame them for being ****hole countries forcing their children to come up here when the reason why they are ****hole countries leads back ALMOST completely to us.

    Africa doesn't illegally migrate here but that hardly means we shouldn't help them.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    They estimate there's about 30,000 to 50,000 gang members in El Salvador alone. It's the same for Honduras and Guatemala.


    How would you go about rounding up 150,000 gang members and assuming you succeed, where would you put them after you do and who is going to pay to keep them all incarcerated?

    US deportation of gang members after they served time in US prisons is likely what caused the gang problem in Central America in the first place.
    I don't think rounding up all gang members is the answer but seizing the power figures perhaps... putting the gangs organization in enough disarray that the government could take control again.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I don't think rounding up all gang members is the answer but seizing the power figures perhaps... putting the gangs organization in enough disarray that the government could take control again.
    Removing the power heads is like cutting off the head of a Hydra. With such a high murder rate the gang leaders probably don't live very long anyway and are quickly replaced.

    I don't know what the answer is but perhaps legalizing pot and cutting off their weapons supply might help enormously.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    As we left West Yellowstone and came down the construction-laden Targhee to I-15 in Idaho all the way to Vegas last Wednesday,
    the altitude--inner-ear--UV--weather changes knocked me for a loop.

    As my wife drove, one of my ideas was to round up all of our gang-bangers, including the ones in prison,
    and send them down there to fight theirs .
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Removing the power heads is like cutting off the head of a Hydra. With such a high murder rate the gang leaders probably don't live very long anyway and are quickly replaced.

    I don't know what the answer is but perhaps legalizing pot and cutting off their weapons supply might help enormously.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I did. The children coming into our country illegally are going to be deported.
    It appears you didnt read because I said if they are given refugee status then they stay. Try to read past the first sentence next time.

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